Most interesting find (flotsam and jetsam) - Page 2

JSP · 23 July 2009, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Hightower

That's wicked when something like that happens. I'm yet to find a message in a bottle. Buy I guess that would be classed as littering these days.

Find a bottle floating past, piece of paper inside says "Take your navigation course, wish I had!"

chewy · 24 July 2009, 07:53

Bits of engine, fenders, fish boxes, a detonator and the other week my mate found an unxploded "bomblet" from a plane.

m chappelow · 24 July 2009, 09:29

for those that dont know ,regarding floatsom /jetsom if you find anything with a rope and some sort of float or bouy even a piece of wood as a float attached its classed as LIGAN and and has to be returned to the owner or left alone , wonder then if you get it around your prop could you could make a claim for damages done ,,,,and if that goes for all the crab lobster pot markers,,,,around the coast too .

neilda · 24 July 2009, 09:43

I can only join the 'lost at sea' element of this thread - the other side!

I have lost a rather beautiful gold watch when I fell out of my boat recently, so if you ever find one, or know someone that has- let me know!

m chappelow · 24 July 2009, 09:58

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Originally Posted by neilda

I can only join the 'lost at sea' element of this thread - the other side!

I have lost a rather beautiful gold watch when I fell out of my boat recently, so if you ever find one, or know someone that has- let me know!

look on the good side it will bring you better luck for the future ,old viking ritual of giving something of value back to the sea ,gold or silver to keep the sea gods happy ,,,,,i would still be pissed off though ,,,it was bad enough when i lost a decent knife when we were gutting fish and see who could gut the fastest ,went that fast i finished up keeping the guts and throwing me knife ,,,

neilda · 24 July 2009, 10:32

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Originally Posted by m chappelow

look on the good side it will bring you better luck for the future ,old viking ritual of giving something of value back to the sea ,gold or silver to keep the sea gods happy ,,,,,i would still be pissed off though ,,,it was bad enough when i lost a decent knife when we were gutting fish and see who could gut the fastest ,went that fast i finished up keeping the guts and throwing me knife ,,,

Yes, I suppose you're right.

I'm not sure what the Gods will do with it - it would buy a decent RIB for them!

PeterM · 24 July 2009, 10:48

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Originally Posted by neilda

I can only join the 'lost at sea' element of this thread - the other side!

I have lost a rather beautiful gold watch when I fell out of my boat recently, so if you ever find one, or know someone that has- let me know!

Was it not insured ?

m chappelow · 24 July 2009, 10:49

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Originally Posted by neilda

Yes, I suppose you're right.

I'm not sure what the Gods will do with it - it would buy a decent RIB for them!

it might turn up yet, it wont tarnish so some diver might see it even years later people have had things of value retuned having given them up ,try keep publicising it around diving clubs ect ,good luck mart

PeterM · 24 July 2009, 10:55

If its worth that much is it worth learning to dive and turning into a lifes mission ?

neilda · 24 July 2009, 15:41

It is insured and the insurance company are ready to transfer the cash when I want....

A couple of kind souls on here have offered to dive for it and it's just a question of finding the right time. Because of the position it needs to be in slack tide, so opportunities are moderately limited.

The watch is now on the missing art register (it really is quite valuable/silly money) so if it's found it will surface, so to speak, eventually.

To be honest I'd rather have it back than have the cash - it's a special object for all sorts of reasons....

Ian M · 24 July 2009, 16:56

I think my best find was some old shoes, well actually a line of them when out with the diving club.
Then we found the owners, fortunately alive

We had gone past them in the swell that had come up, and seeing us go past they had apparently just about given up. I will never forget it.

Simon B · 24 July 2009, 17:16

My brother found an elephants foot when we were kids and I found a stick of gelignite. Bit young then to work out what to do with it.

Got a nice Berghaus fleece hat when we up in Scotland though.

MarkL · 24 July 2009, 19:16

My prop found a 4ft long submerged log... does that count ?

chewy · 24 July 2009, 20:37

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Originally Posted by m chappelow

for those that dont know ,regarding floatsom /jetsom if you find anything with a rope and some sort of float or bouy even a piece of wood as a float attached its classed as LIGAN and and has to be returned to the owner or left alone , wonder then if you get it around your prop could you could make a claim for damages done ,,,,and if that goes for all the crab lobster pot markers,,,,around the coast too .

Wasn't flotsom fair game but Jetsom wasn't because it was thrown from a vessel that was sinking to try and keep it afloat, still owned by the ships owner. Something like that anyway?

wavelength · 24 July 2009, 21:18

into an isolated tiny shingle beach amongst cliffs in west Scotland years back with the dive club in the sib. One of the girls stubbed her toe on something in the grass at the bottom of the cliff. Turned out to be a glass trawl float about the size of a small goldfish bowl. When we peeled the turf back from the cliff base there were 18 of them stached there. By the amount of turf and undergrowth over them they must have been there undisturbed for years.

Simon B · 25 July 2009, 19:44

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Originally Posted by chewy

Wasn't flotsom fair game but Jetsom wasn't because it was thrown from a vessel that was sinking to try and keep it afloat, still owned by the ships owner. Something like that anyway?

Flotsam I think is washed off the deck due to an accident or carelessness, jetsom was stuff chucked off deliberately that may also have been prepared for it's journey.

The theory is that its still owned but might be difficult to prove. Not sure what happens if it sinks near a wreck or is part of a wreck, I think the insurance company then own it.

spartacus · 25 July 2009, 20:55

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Originally Posted by wavelength

into an isolated tiny shingle beach amongst cliffs in west Scotland years back with the dive club in the sib. One of the girls stubbed her toe on something in the grass at the bottom of the cliff. Turned out to be a glass trawl float about the size of a small goldfish bowl. When we peeled the turf back from the cliff base there were 18 of them stached there. By the amount of turf and undergrowth over them they must have been there undisturbed for years.

I've read something in National Geographic magazine about glass floats being washed up in BC, Canada, most likely from Japan. All I seem to find are the plastic variety. Speaking of submerged logs, we've gone past a submerged water-logged tree trunk. Either fell of a bulk carrier or made it downstream from where-ever it was logged. Wouldn't like to make contact with that at 30 knots!

wavelength · 25 July 2009, 21:13

they used to use glass floats in the uk in days gone by. The old man had some at home they had used onboard - would have been for either trawling or drifting.

Andy Young2 · 26 July 2009, 08:10

I found a green coloured glass float some 24" in diameter whilst beach combing on the island of Tristan da Cunha. It was intact and in a 'net bag' used to attach it to the fishing gear. The glass was still clear (not sand blasted) and I was told that it is relatively rare to find them complete on the island as they mostly break in the surf. Some islanders make attractive lampshades from them by cutting out the base where they have been blown. Islanders still cut bottles by filling them with water/paraffin to the level they want to 'cut' and and then burning the fuel. This gives a suprisingly clean cut. Beach combing on such a remote location was great fun especially if you read the history of the island and realise the number of wrecks dotted about. Also dived ther e which was another story...

willk · 26 July 2009, 08:32

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Originally Posted by Andy Young2

and I was told that it is relatively rare to find them complete on the island as they mostly break in the surf.

and here's one I found on our west coast - it's about five/six inches in diameter and the cords are polyprop or similar. It has tiny goose barnacles on it so floated in warmer seas at some time. I wonder where these are still in use/being made?