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Old 09 May 2007, 22:25   #1
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More tube cleaning

Just seen this stuff on Pennel's website.

http://www.pennel.fr/Pages/orca_acces_cleaner.htm

If anyone should know about tube cleaning it's the people who actually make the fabric!!!

Look at the contents of the "Deep Cleaner". Sodium hypochlorite - also known as common or garden household bleach!!! It also has surfactants and is a gel - sounds exactly like Tesco's own thick bleach.

I tried some RIB cleaner the other day - using a green nylon pad as suggested - it cleaned the tubes but again it was the pad doing the work - trouble is it also scuffed them so I will never use a cleaner that relies on an abrasive pad.
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Old 09 May 2007, 22:38   #2
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I use hyporchlorite as do most of the boat owners over here. just spray it onto any weed or greenery, leave it a few mins and wash it off.
We get it from the local Country store, the dairys use it to clean the milking parlours!
also excellent on wooden patio decking, drive ways and the neighbours plants and stray cats....

it's EVIL stuff!
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Old 09 May 2007, 23:56   #3
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I was advised by RibCraft to use toluene for cleaning. It is fantastic but again evil! Don't try to mail order it. It is classified as hazardous!

I used Mer plastic trim preservative and it also does a superb job, quick, if messy to apply.
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Dairy bleach 5lt or 25lt at scats used for cleaning milking parlours
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Old 10 May 2007, 09:06   #5
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When I bought my boat it was a little dirty, and I have now tried various methods suggested on ribnet to clean her.

I guess we all have our favourite cleaning stuff and methods. Mine are now an initial clean with sugar soap using a hand held floor scrubbing brush to get at the ingrained dirt. Followed by cheap sponge kitchen cleaning pads with Rib Revive (from the rib shop).

A few week ago I took the plunge and tried the floor polish on the tubes. I bought some Stoneglo (http://www.selden.co.uk/products/pro...id=49&section=) and put 2 coats on. Very impressed so far.

Here’s a pic of before cleaning and after (sorry none of after the polish stuff but it does look good).

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Old 10 May 2007, 09:49   #6
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it's horrid stuff..!
Only use it on the hull to remove any greenery.
I'm not sure about putting it on the tubes myself, although, a couple of the dive RIBs use it on the tubes and say there are no problems...
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Old 10 May 2007, 11:09   #7
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When I bought my boat it was a little dirty, and I have now tried various methods suggested on ribnet to clean her.

I guess we all have our favourite cleaning stuff and methods. Mine are now an initial clean with sugar soap using a hand held floor scrubbing brush to get at the ingrained dirt. Followed by cheap sponge kitchen cleaning pads with Rib Revive (from the rib shop).

A few week ago I took the plunge and tried the floor polish on the tubes. I bought some Stoneglo (http://www.selden.co.uk/products/pro...id=49&section=) and put 2 coats on. Very impressed so far.

Here’s a pic of before cleaning and after (sorry none of after the polish stuff but it does look good).

Tim
That's a hell of a difference. Did you use the sponge side or the nylon scouring side of the pad?
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That suger soap is good stuff i see its repaired that worn rubing strake ?
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That's a hell of a difference. Did you use the sponge side or the nylon scouring side of the pad?
The nylon scouring side. I softened it up by rubbing on a brick first as even the cheap ones feel very rough.

To be honest though the scrubbing brush and sugar soap got rid of most of the dirt on the tubes. It's just alot of hard work and do a small section at a time.

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That suger soap is good stuff i see its repaired that worn rubing strake ?
Nothing worn about it at all, just alot of grime.
The sugar soap hardly touched the strake. Used the Rib Revive and scouring pad with lots of effort. A few days later I went over the rubbing strake (carefully!) with a cloth soaked in thinners, that got the last remains of grime off.

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We use a product from the selden range called 'selclen s' use it a lot in contract cleaning. Gets old paintwork up a treat. Use it on the whole boat, and makes the glass fibre look like new. When sprayed on the tubes and then powerwashed they look great! About 6/7 quid for 5lt. http://www.selden.co.uk/products/pro...d=90&section=4
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The nylon scouring side. I softened it up by rubbing on a brick first as even the cheap ones feel very rough.

To be honest though the scrubbing brush and sugar soap got rid of most of the dirt on the tubes. It's just alot of hard work and do a small section at a time.



Nothing worn about it at all, just alot of grime.
The sugar soap hardly touched the strake. Used the Rib Revive and scouring pad with lots of effort. A few days later I went over the rubbing strake (carefully!) with a cloth soaked in thinners, that got the last remains of grime off.

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With most of these products I think it's the scouring pad doing the work - I wonder how well washing up liquid and water would have worked with the same pad?

I am not going to take a pad to my tubes - prefer a chemical method rather than abrasion - hence the thinners or bleach route.
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Not so sure that on the tubes the pad is doing most of the work. When you spray the cleaner on the dirt starts to 'run' in streaks, the pad just agitates it and helps lift off the dirt. A softened pad did no harm (that i noticed) to the tubes.
If I had to clean the rubbing strake again then I would miss out the pad and go straight to thinners and a cloth. The dirt sort of bonds to the material used to make them.

Just how dirty can your tubes be? Surely sugar soap and a stiff brush would clean them up.
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Would never use an abrasive on hypalon, pad or cleaner. I`ve used the 'selclen s' for over 15 years in the commercial cleaning industry, and wouldnt use anything else. Its very safe, and easy to use. Its also comparativly cheap (compared to specialist rib cleaning products) You simply spray the whole boat , then power wash off! (dont work for selden, just use their products)

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