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Old 21 September 2009, 15:31   #11
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have killcords never failed.............ever ??
I don't think a checked kill cord can....can it?
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Old 21 September 2009, 16:03   #12
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I don't think a checked kill cord can....can it?
never heard of it, but i'm guessing someone here on the site might know!
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cords failing

Kill cords certainly can fail i have never experienced this on a boat but used to race quads which use the same type of kill cords and had experience of a kill cord failing and know a couple of other people who have had the same problem. And a quad kill cord is used pritty much every time you stop the engine is is regularly checked it can be as simple as a wire works loose or when the cord releases the switch it removes the contact can sometimes not move enough.

So nothing is really 100% fail safe.
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Old 21 September 2009, 17:33   #14
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I've had one kill cord where there was nothing inside the red cover from about half way down. But I always give them an inspection so (touch wood) I should find out any problems. Now if it's an electrical problem to do with the switch......
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Killcords?

Of course it's a matter of opinion and yes Killcords work brilliantly....

Until you forget to out it on, or like most people never wear it in the first place.

The debate is an interesting one and it would be great to hear more views on this.
The Autotether is available in single user, 2 user and 4 user set ups and is most importantly a MOB system. Depending on the set up and the FOBS the crew/passengers are wearing will either kill the boat, or just set of a very loud alarm should you loose someone out the back while belting of waves on the way home.

The market for MOB systems is evolving all the time and is an important consideration. The cost of a kill switch cord is of course next to nothing, but wearing it can be a pain and very few can say that there has not been an occasion where you avoid wearing it.

Autotether eliminates the excuse, sets the boat up safely and keeps up to 4 + crew or passengers safe and monitored while onboard. Cost is irrelevant in this case.

The batteries last 150 hours so require changing once a season, and the installation is as simple as taking it out of the box and sticking it to the console using the supplied velcro tabs in the box. It can be removed and stored when finished or can be used to monitor children around water when ashore or if they wander too far from you.

This video is the classic example of it will never happen to me? The boat was destroyed, 3 crew went over board with one broken arm and other minor injuries and all were lucky not to have been killed overboard at 35knts.

The Autotether also provides for a clip on the actuator to connect the existing kill cord harness should you wish to have a 5th person on board.

I agree that kill cords work, but there are many instance that I know of where an Autotether would have been welcome and gives you added security when walking around the boat particularly when you are alone.

Christmas is coming guys. Stay safe either way.

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I like the idea of an alarm if I drop someone over the side. I was out with guests in not the best weather / sea state a few months ago and realised I was concentrating on driving so much I'd have no idea if one of them vanished as they were behind me/ all I coudl hear was the wind ! I had to instruct the crew next to me to keep an eye on them and tell me if they were not happy at any time ( or worse).

Says alot for the passenger boats with the helm raised at the stern ! you get to see if people go over the side !
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Until you forget to out it on, or like most people never wear it in the first place.
You're just as likely (possibly more likely because it's less obvious) to forget to turn your fob on. At least a kill cord has a physical presence. Does the control unit warn you if you start the motor with no FOBs active?

The type of people who are likely to drop a couple of hundred quid on a glorified kill switch are probably not the sort who wouldn't bother to wear a kill cord in the first place.

I can see some benefit in having an automatic watch kept on your passengers, but MOB is only one of a range of likely problems in poor conditions, and even with Autotether you'd still need to keep track of how they're coping.

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The debate is an interesting one and it would be great to hear more views on this.
I think it's an interesting idea but mostly fills a need that doesn't exist. There will be some people who have a real need to move about the boat with more freedom than a kill cord allows, and some with plenty of money for gadgets who will have it just because they can. I might get one of I was doing serious offshore cruising as an added bit of peace of mind, but it wouldn't come at the top of my priorities.
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I was out with guests in not the best weather / sea state a few months ago and realised I was concentrating on driving so much I'd have no idea if one of them vanished as they were behind me/ all I coudl hear was the wind ! ( or worse).
god forbid that happens, but it easily could. as you say with all the wind noise and the concentration going on, travelling at 30 - 40 plus knots, if someone fell over and you didnt notice immediately. Well it doesnt bare thinking about. yet think how many times we find ourselves in this situation every year.

so whats the best and simplest solution??
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It even happens at home

Guys, whilst there seems to be an very compelling argument for the simpler the better model and the Autotether is being perceived as just another gizmo for the less adventurous out there keep in mind this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/8199397.stm

The Autotether has many advantages and many perceived or unecessary disadvantages.

The Unit will not activate without at least one wearer FOB turned on an connected to the master at the helm. The master is simply cliped onto the kill switch on the console in the same way as a standard cord.

It depends on how you look at it, and my bet is that there are many powerboat users out there with enough savy but perhaps not huge experience who would welcome the safety of an Autotether when venturing out with the family.

Kind a handy for sailing as a simple man overboard alarm or for a dinghy in which could have broken it's tow during a night passage. Placing a white FOB in the dinghy will activate the alarm if the dinght is taking on water or moves outside the set range of the unit (100 feet or more).

Also, no wiring at all is required to install these and the cost is less than half that of other MOB systems from the big names which have to hard wired and require professional installation.

John, an interesting online poll asking and (answering honestly) if you always wear your killcord? yes or no?

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i have known in the past of 2 the same make retro fit kill cords or rather switches stick in the run position ,,,the type that has a button and its held in by a rubber cap rather than the fork type that seems common nowadays ,
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