Mollers reminesces...

[Poly]

Originally Posted by Mollers

Here we are, at home in the Bilges.

you're not in the Bilges yet, its still vaguely boat related.

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by Polwart

you're not in the Bilges yet, its still vaguely boat related.

'Vaguely'? How called it be more RIB related? This boat is part of Osprey history.

[cosworth mirage]

Originally Posted by Mollers

Around the 50knt mark, have a run in it sometime and see what you think. The Etec is an awesome engine.

well have to meet up
cant wait test test the the new drive on mine
after blowing the first volvo drive
i fitted a stronger drive and lost 10 knots
i added more and more power to get it back then blow that to pieces
engines been really good for a long time now and ive done some more work to help the charge temperature whitch will allow me to run bit more boost if neccesary.
hopfully the shorter and thinner drive with the hoff type prop will reduce the drag

[Mollers]

Here ya go, have a read of this. http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...=VECTOR&page=2 Some bird called 'Alice' spoke of your boat on this site previously.

[cosworth mirage]

Originally Posted by Mollers

Here ya go, have a read of this. http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...=VECTOR&page=2 Some bird called 'Alice' spoke of your boat on this site previously.

funny seeing people writing about it .for me its a enginnering project i love tuning stuff but got board with cars and bikes a long time so its just along term project.
but its awsome offshore in heavy swell i had vecter speedboat looked a bit like a phantom 21 foot with a evinrude 225 it was really quick but just didnt handle any swell and was a real ball breaker on heavy landing

[cosworth mirage]

Originally Posted by cosworth mirage

funny seeing people writing about it .for me its a enginnering project i love tuning stuff but got board with cars and bikes a long time so its just along term project.
but its awsome offshore in heavy swell i had vecter speedboat looked a bit like a phantom 21 foot with a evinrude 225 it was really quick but just didnt handle any swell and was a real ball breaker on heavy landing

who makes the e tec engine

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by cosworth mirage

who makes the e tec engine

Evinrude, who are now a BRP (Bombardier Recreational Products) company. In your day they were OMC.

[cosworth mirage]

Originally Posted by Mollers

Evinrude, who are now a BRP (Bombardier Recreational Products) company. In your day they were OMC.

your tennent james has been on my rib he's used to quick cars but i'dont think he injoyed the rib ride much.
we got a lot of air and he landed with a thud i had to take him back after 5 mins he was mutering something about never going on a boat again.......

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by Mollers

Ah, I didn't remember it being a hardnose. If it's an xr24 it is essentially what became the Osprey Viper hull. Were you involved with it when it came out of Vector Marine?

Offshore Components (Osprey) paid a naval designer to come up with the XR design and I think Vector built the mould tools. 18 and 20 made in Standish, 24s made by Vector. XR18 and 20 were first shown and the Scottish Boat show in Feb 92. 96 saw a change of design to the Lynx.

The Vipers, well they have an interesting history. In 1986 Fletcher made 3 ribs before deciding there was no future or money to be made building ribs, So sold the design. Mike and Ralph used the moulds to produce the commerical ribs for (Osprey) 5.4m, 6.5m and 8m Falcons. In 1992 Offshore Components asked Mike and Ralph to come up we a new design as divers wanted more space and soft nose ribs rather than the Sparrowhawk and Eagle. The First Viper a 5.25m was built in Sept 92 and the rest of the range followed that winter. If you look closely at the early Vipers you can see the change in angle were Mike raised the bow section from the Fletcher lines.

XR 24 mould now in Stanley, North Yorkshire with Reiver Boats.

Pete

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by Pete7

Offshore Components (Osprey) paid a naval designer to come up with the XR design and I think Vector built the mould tools. 18 and 20 made in Standish, 24s made by Vector. XR18 and 20 were first shown and the Scottish Boat show in Feb 92. 96 saw a change of design to the Lynx.

The Vipers, well they have an interesting history. In 1986 Fletcher made 3 ribs before deciding there was no future or money to be made building ribs, So sold the design. Mike and Ralph used the moulds to produce the commerical ribs for (Osprey) 5.4m, 6.5m and 8m Falcons. In 1992 Offshore Components asked Mike and Ralph to come up we a new design as divers wanted more space and soft nose ribs rather than the Sparrowhawk and Eagle. The First Viper a 5.25m was built in Sept 92 and the rest of the range followed that winter. If you look closely at the early Vipers you can see the change in angle were Mike raised the bow section from the Fletcher lines.

XR 24 mould now in Stanley, North Yorkshire with Reiver Boats.

Pete

Interesting, so how 'designed' was the original Viper hull? Was it quite simiular to the Fletcher speedboat hulls at the time?

[cosworth mirage]

Originally Posted by Mollers

Interesting, so how 'designed' was the original Viper hull? Was it quite simiular to the Fletcher speedboat hulls at the time?

morning

[cosworth mirage]

Originally Posted by cosworth mirage

morning

i will try and upload some build and current photos of mirage today

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by Mollers

Interesting, so how 'designed' was the original Viper hull? Was it quite simiular to the Fletcher speedboat hulls at the time?

"Very" is the way I would describe it.

Pete

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by Pete7

"Very" is the way I would describe it.

Pete

Great, I have an anabolic Arrowsport with tubes on!!

[Downhilldai]

Originally Posted by Pete7

"Very" is the way I would describe it.

Pete

So, was the Falcon derived from a Fletcher RIB 'based on' the Fletcher 17' Arrowbeau?

[Daniel]

since we have so many vector experts in one place, were the XR24 and Vagabond the same hull with different bow sections?

Did both / all have the "unusual" step at the stern of the hull?

The soft nose Vagabond was pretty crap in a big following sea. I have a cracking photo of 6m of detached tubes and about 1m still stuck at the rear to prove it - sorry not digital!!

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Pete7

"Very" is the way I would describe it.

Pete

Pete what is the story behind the Vipermax then how did it develop from the Viper.

Is it Mike who builds the hulls now that designed the VM?

[cosworth mirage]

Originally Posted by Daniel

since we have so many vector experts in one place, were the XR24 and Vagabond the same hull with different bow sections?

Did both / all have the "unusual" step at the stern of the hull?

The soft nose Vagabond was pretty crap in a big following sea. I have a cracking photo of 6m of detached tubes and about 1m still stuck at the rear to prove it - sorry not digital!!

vagabond was taken from a hull mould of the 21 vulcan speedboat it had a deep planing wedge it was a quick hull but didnt like heavy swell nose was low to so it was real easy to stuff hence peeled tubes

xr has really deep v bow section flating out slightly with a low flat planing wedge which tends to hold bow slightly high seems to absoarb loads of hp to go fast but awsome in swell
just posted some pics of my xr on sight

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by Chris

Pete what is the story behind the Vipermax then how did it develop from the Viper. Is it Mike who builds the hulls now that designed the VM?

Yes, he owns the rights thats how they kept the moulds when Osprey sold up, shewd move.

Pete