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Old 29 November 2006, 19:25   #11
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I'm surprised that the RNLI haven't been forced by obsessive Health and Safety people to use dummies instead.
The Fire Brigade use dummies for practice casevacs. Because of standard weights etc. I go to briefings with the Fire Brigade and its quite amusing listening to them tutting about lifting real people. And I thought you had to be fit to be in the Fire Brigade.
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Old 29 November 2006, 19:25   #12
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I was just curious as to whether anyone practises MOB procedure with real people. I know RNLI and other rescue services do. Perhaps next year a group of us could get together and practice before going to the Pub .
Andy, I'll volunteer after I've been to the pub.....
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I was just curious as to whether anyone practises MOB procedure with real people. I know RNLI and other rescue services do. Perhaps next year a group of us could get together and practice before going to the Pub .
Who are you going to throw over the side?

Never tried it but the sea temp here is so low you don't have much time anyway before you needn't worry about whether you bump their head on the hull or not, because apparently the life expectancy in winter sea temps is about 2 minutes!
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Andy, I'll volunteer after I've been to the pub.....
Just concentrate on getting me home after the pub
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Who are you going to throw over the side?

Never tried it but the sea temp here is so low you don't have much time anyway before you needn't worry about whether you bump their head on the hull or not, because apparently the life expectancy in winter sea temps is about 2 minutes!
Surprised you don't hit yer head on Ice before you go in the drink. Do you get Ice flows at Port Stanley
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Surprised you don't hit yer head on Ice before you go in the drink. Do you get Ice flows at Port Stanley
No, the odd iceberg drifts past to the south if bits fall off the Antarctic, but thats all. The sea is just cold because like you, we have a current coming up from the south, but instead of from Mexico it comes from the Antarctic, so skinny dipping is not really on the agenda or bits can fall off
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I used to practice when I was sailing a lot... It was an aweful lot slower getting back to the victim than in a RIB, that's for certain.

I figure I get lots of practice retrieving my baseball hat which generally goes flying off my pointy head at least once in every three outings! My trusty SO performs the duties of "spotter" admirably as I wheel about. I think we only drop our speed to about 20 knots to pick it up now. I suppose if it was a body we might drop the speed a little more...

Since I suspect that your query is serious, I have considered something like this: http://www.markuslifenet.com/71MLRIB.htm

I dive alone most of the time and I know my better half would never be able to haul me back in if I was incapacitated or worse!
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Since I suspect that your query is serious, I have considered something like this: http://www.markuslifenet.com/71MLRIB.htm
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Looks very similar to the orange plastic netting you find on building sites - i suspect the plastic netting is quite a bit cheaper though!!!
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Looks very similar to the orange plastic netting you find on building sites - i suspect the plastic netting is quite a bit cheaper though!!!
I was going to comment on your first post, but this one'll do quite nicely.

I took a look at the orange netting for just this purpose. I found it to be a) not "tall" enough (as it's supposed to be rigged), b) nowhere near strong enough (though that's a guess), c) tough to join together to form a big enough piece of netting.

I think a coarser weave nylon net would do the trick (as the net in Stoo's post demonstrates, though I'd like it a bit tighter than what they've got.)

I mostly dive off my boat, quite often solo, so the rig has to be manageable by two people minimum (I assume that even if I'm solo, the incapacitated divers buddy will be there.)

Worst case would be to have to recover one unconscious person while solo; in that case, I would figure on getting them attached to the boat, head clear of the water, and scream for help on the VHF.

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