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Old 01 August 2013, 19:41   #1
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Minimum hp for SR5.4?

I've read all of the threads that say that the Yam 2-stroke 90 is optimum but just came across a 2 stroke 70 with controls for a good price.

I'm helping a friend with a refurb and we've been looking at 90/115 and trying to stay away from 4 strokes [due to weight]. We'll probably block off the flooding hull if that helps significantly with buoyancy.

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I seem to remember Ollyit's 5.4 did about 28kts with a 60 on if thats any help.
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Ok, so possible but wouldn't be good with extra gear, etc. Probably would hurt resale value down the line too.

EDIT:
Measured from transom notch to keel...just under 21 inches (~52-53cm, I'm guessing). If it were left as is, 20 inch "long shaft" would work. My buddy seems to thing that we should raise the transom up so it's straight across. Does that mean a 25 inch shaft then?
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It's a standard longshaft. It's only rated for max 90hp by the way.

You can raise the transom, but getting a used XL shaft motor in 90hp might not be very easy.
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It's only rated for max 90hp by the way.
If we found one, this wouldn't be the 1st SR5.4 with a 115hp!!!
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If we found one, this wouldn't be the 1st SR5.4 with a 115hp!!!
Agreed, but I wouldn't like your chances of not getting sued if there's an accident-or of your insurers paying out.

The information is easily available (it's online) and if the boat still has it's ID plate, it even says it on it.

In all honesty there's no point overpowering an SR5.4-you'll never ever use the extra power unless it's mirror calm.
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The information is easily available (it's online) and if the boat still has it's ID plate, it even says it on it.
I believe you... Though, I didn't find one, it's ex-navy.

I did a lot of googling last night on rib.net and elsewhere and I couldn't come up with any good literature. The best I found was a screenshot of someones phone that said engine weight not to exceed 175kg
http://www.rib.net/forum/attachment....7&d=1345900463

175 kg = 385 lb....this would technically allow for a 366 lbs four-stroke Yamaha 90hp. That seems heavy!

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In all honesty there's no point overpowering an SR5.4-you'll never ever use the extra power unless it's mirror calm.
Probably true but right now we're just looking for the right engine at the right price. I found a ~1996 Yamaha 70 with controls for $2100 while I've also found a 1998 Yamaha 90 for $4400. If a 115 were to appear at the right price, it's going on (an almost 15 year old two stroke motor for $4440 is ridiculous!)
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Should have said this in the previous post really.


Mine, solo with an 85hp Yam on it and 70 litres of fuel aboard will do 38 knots. It'll probably top 40kts with someone smaller (I'm a fat git) at the helm. It's rare that it's comfortable to go above 28kts for any length of time though..
It's more important if you're setting up an SR5.4 to get the balance right than to stick shedloads of power on it. Sticking on a big heavy 115hp motor and the extra fuel it'll entail is a bit pointless. You won't be able to go any faster unless it's flat calm and it'll be stern heavy.
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http://zodiacmilpro.com/wp-content/u...r-range-IT.pdf

Specs are in there. I think they're on here somewhere too.

The Avon specs are max 2x40hp, or 1x90hp. Max weight 175kg.

You need one specced for twins in order to fit them-they don't have the transom cutout.
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Nos, going the other direction if I couldn't find anything "vintage", i.e. a carbed 2-stroke, what you go for on the new(er) side?

Yamaha F70 117kg
Evinrude Etec 90hp 145kg

I'd throw the Nissan/Tohatsu 90hp (153kg) in there but I would never find one used in the states...

Getting heavier:
Suzuki DF90A 155 kg
Honda 90L 163 kg
Yamaha F90 166kg
Optimax 90 170kg

Would the huge weight savings of the Yamaha F70 make a performance difference?

EDIT:
Found this thread from March of this year.
SR5.4 with Yamaha F70 4 stroke ??
On page 2, Bushrider is estimating 30 knts max with the F70. Can anyone confirm his estimates?
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