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Old 26 October 2001, 15:03   #1
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Meni Strights

I have been throught the Swellies on the Meni Strights many times in yachts. We always stick to high water plus minus about 30 min.

Do anyone have any comments/experience of the swellies at other times, low water, full flow etc.

Can it be done safely in a Rib (Ricbraft 4.8M / 50Hp)

Any comment welcome

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Yes I've been out through the Swellies at HW +3, but only in very good conditions. Less than F4 should be OK in a fast rib, but not sure about F5+.
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Alittle off topic...

Any chance that RibNet could post a good chart of the UK?...so that Ribsters in other countries could quickly locate the area of these discussions?...
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Let me try to help.
The Menai Straights are located at the "top left-hand" corner of Wales, between the mainland and the Island of Anglesey.
Just below C52-see two maps following, one of the Irish Sea area and the second, a closeup of the staraits themselves.
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Thanks...

Does walking across offer itself as an option as well?...
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Old 27 October 2001, 08:09   #7
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Hi Alan

Thanks for the reply, what size rib did you use,(ie what do you call fast! as My RIB is only good for 25 MPH with full load) and what was the sea state like, just fast flow or choppy.


Sorry to people who didn't know where they were thought that the Swellies were infamous world wide

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Sorry, I don't know the area at all. I have never even heard of the Swellies. Can someone describe them to us?
I am just a guy sitting at home with a map of the area.
I strongly suspect walking across is not an option though!!
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Hi there

I'm with Brian here. Tell us all about the 'Swellies'. It doesn't look very wide, but is this what causes the problems (whatever they are)?

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Hi everyone

Well the Swellies

They are a narrow section of the Meni Strights, in total about 100 meters wide and run for about 250m long.

The channel through is much narrower than that maybe 25 metes in some places with rocks at each side and is far from stright

Now all this sounds OK but if you look at your tide tables for Liverpool and then North Wales, at each ends of the Meni Strights and look at the time differences and heights you may see why problems can be found.

Without checking there is about 1-30 to 2-00 hours difference and on tides of upto 10 meters height.

The top and botton of the Meni Strights are quite wide, hundreds of meters maybe 1000's, the tide floods down the strights and when it comes to the Swellies things get interesting.
I have never been there at full flood, hence the question but have done the passage in yachts and was only out of the slack water window by 30 min and had 4/5 Kts of flow aginst us. At full flood i dont know what it runs but its fast.

Anyway hope this helps, this area has a bit of reputation (or so I thought) I know people who go round Anglesy rather than get the times right and go through the Swellies.

If you ever get chance I would think it cound be Er interesting I think is the word. I plan to have a look at some point leaving plenty of margin to bail out if need be, When I do I will let you know how things went

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