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Old 27 June 2019, 22:52   #1
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MCA consultation document

If you do you own maintenance and donít want the cost of boating to rocket even more than it is already

Respond to the consultation document seeking to snarl us all up in paperwork and cost in the name of Health and Safety
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Old 28 June 2019, 02:24   #2
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it would help if you stated which consultation document you are referring to, do you have a link ?
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it it this one ?
https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...-safety-at-sea
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Most of that is fairly reasonable but Iím not sure about the emergency steering. If I have to carry a tiller for my 200 Verado there may be some weird redesign needed.
I do think that some regulation is needed in this country though - there are way too many clueless people on the water. Maybe at least an icc.
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Old 28 June 2019, 03:03   #5
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I cant see anything as mandatory for leisure boaters so it should not make any difference. They are all guidance docs or am I wrong.

Reading through them all they are all a tad pointless in my opinion as only briefly mention various subjects, they could be far longer and in more detail so I don't know why they just remain almost like a quick snapshot.

Some of the guidance will just confuse and some does not make sense at all, requirement to carry maintanance and service manuals onboard for example, first point is that would be rather alot of paperwork, which will get wet and ruined. Another one about modifications to your boat and complying with certification etc etc, they dont state what sort of modification, would changing a nav light position or type be a modification for example.


I don't know why they have bothered at all to be honust as far better and more comprehensive guidance can be found in RYA and other publications and books and within training courses.

It kind of feels like something some young employees of the MCA have produced just to do something.

If the idea is to save lives and prevent accidents they would be better with publishing advice about training and courses, or making wearing a kill cord mandatory or wearing a life jacket.

So in summary cant see these as adding much to the leisure boaters world, there are better guidance materials out there and you cant beat training and experience.Plus these may confuse people.
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it would help if you stated which consultation document you are referring to, do you have a link ?
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Or trolling. I thought heíd had his legs slapped for that already

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Please could you pair keep " on topic " ? TIA Bern
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I cant see anything as mandatory for leisure boaters so it should not make any difference. They are all guidance docs or am I wrong.

Reading through them all they are all a tad pointless in my opinion as only briefly mention various subjects, they could be far longer and in more detail so I don't know why they just remain almost like a quick snapshot.
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The covering page says, ďThe guidance contained within this collection of MGNs is not looking to amend or change the text of the applicable regulations, but rather provide further detail on the intent of the regulation.Ē So I donít believe they are applicable directly to leisure use. However, given that there have been fatalities on commercial vessels where there have been repairs or modifications I can see why they feel itís necessary to clarify some points. Especially as they havenít managed to successfully prosecute everyone they perhaps felt has been at fault, because ďbest practiceĒ is subjective.
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If you delve a little deeper you will see that this contains greater threats than at first you might think

There is a large thread over on YBW forum with more detail from those that seem to have delved deeper and have spotted the threats re doing your own maintenance and the added costs that would flow
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