MAIB Report on RIB-X "Partner 1" - RIB Console detatchment

[Polwart]

New report on a RIB console/jockey parting company:

http://www.maib.gov.uk/publications/.../partner_1.cfm

[Jono]

Bang goes the market for "home completed" Ribs....

"The International Council of Marine Industry Associations (ICOMIA) has been recommended to advise its
members that CE marked builder’s plates should not be affixed to partly completed boats."

[kitten]

The way I read the regs it has always been that way, and completion of the CE/RCD is down to whoever completes the boat for final sale.

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Jono

Bang goes the market for "home completed" Ribs....

"The International Council of Marine Industry Associations (ICOMIA) has been recommended to advise its
members that CE marked builder’s plates should not be affixed to partly completed boats."

I think I would rather DIY at home if the approved dealer uses 4 self tappers to hold down a console!!!

Having read the full report it would appear that a lack of communication didn't help - the 4 self tappers were just transit bolts - if the console had been left totaally loose I suppose someone may have noticed!!!

[PeterM]

This is worrying reading - I'm off home to try & Rip the consoles out of my boat - I know for sure they are held in by 10 screws , but this seems to be the advised way outhill give to hold in seats etc on the smaller ( 4-5m) avons. I assume with some sort of bonding agent.

Really shows a lack of any kind of sense or responsibility by ' professional' companies . I to think that nealry all home rigged RIBS are over engineered to avoid this sort of thing - I'd rather have that any day , even if I dont get a nice bit of paper saying the boat is OK !

[martini]

Originally Posted by Blackroady

I to think that nealry all home rigged RIBS are over engineered to avoid this sort of thing

I put around 50no. 6mm woodscrews with finishing washers plus Sikaflex in my console. problem is if all the screws are going in to half an inch of soggy plywood its still liable to rip off.

I bonded a 2x1" hardwood batten to the underside of the floor where all the screws for the seats and console were going to be. I wonder how many "professional" boatbuilders go to the same lengths?

[Chris]

I think whomever rigged that boat should be shot, after all the console is only one thing on a list as long as your arm.

For me bonding in the console is the way it should be done and preferably the jockeys as well.

[Dirk Diggler]

By bonding I assume you mean laminating?

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

By bonding I assume you mean laminating?

Yes thats the word I was looking for

The back two jockeys in my Rib are not laminated in however I had Osprey filt a bolt pattern into the deck which are fitted during the build, the seats then bolt in with 4 x 8mm bolts on each.

[bedajim]

Originally Posted by Jono

Bang goes the market for "home completed" Ribs....

"The International Council of Marine Industry Associations (ICOMIA) has been recommended to advise its
members that CE marked builder’s plates should not be affixed to partly completed boats."

Wonder if that includes completed hull but without engine & controls