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Old 15 June 2011, 20:04   #11
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PS There is NO way ANY controller would give permission for a pilot to dive bomb any vessel!! They neither have the authority to do this and would never encourage any activity of this sort, which to be frank is pretty dumb. If you know there is a large gathering of people (like on a large ferry), then the minimum overflying height is 1500', which of course any qualified pilot would know ....
So I imagined it. bugger, it's amazing how your mind plays tricks on you!


We were in the twin engine whatever it was, used to do the traffic reports on local radio, possibly known as the "flying eye". A pal of mine was having lessons, and i chartered the plane, together with the instructor, for a quick return trip to Jersey. My pal flew it for most of the journey, but was struggling to keep a level flight on the way back, so we had a bit of a big dipper kind of ride. Instructor flew the last 20 or so miles, and at one point asked for permission to go below a certain height. He didn't actually ask if it was ok to "bomb run" the ferry, he was a pretty senior instructor so obviously knew the regs, and we didn't actually over fly the vessel, but we and the passengers thought it was fun.
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Come to Los Angeles and the shoreline clearance when passing LAX airport North and South bound along the beach for helicopter traffic is not ABOVE 150' ASL

120kts at 25 feet over the ocean is great fun. You're going to get (at best) very wet if something goes wrong but hey...

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Old 16 June 2011, 02:23   #13
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Near miss?

Surely this would only have been a near miss if Old Harry had been flying in the other direction?
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Dirk, imagined it - no, accurate description in your first post - no.
I replied to what was stated in the post. If you came across IFR at FL70/90 and then asked to descend visually or to go VFR, then no doubt it was approved. Even 1500' looks very low from an aircraft. Glad to see that your captain did not dive bomb the ferry
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Bear in mind that some operators have approval to fly lower, for example, the fishery patrol aircraft operated by Direct Flight and, of course, the military.
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Old 16 June 2011, 10:07   #16
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Ive posted the video on you tube and have to edit it to keep it within size, take a look, open full screen mode and look from start at centre of cliff and half way along cliff, you should spot the plane.

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And here is a still image thats been edited, look between the two red lines and that is where the aircraft is, the two red lines represent flight path !
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Don't see a problem with that - other than as was said above he's in the water if he gets an engine problem.

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Old 16 June 2011, 17:30   #19
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Nothing wrong at all...a bit of fun beating up the coast. No harm to anyone.

Why is it that this nanny state is overun by those health and safety merchants so typified by certain Ribnet wardens? Fun? Oh no, not without a safety assesment first and if spotted a thoroughly outraged post will appear on Ribnet with muttered threats of reports to the CAA. Anyone get the registration? Lucky for the pilot he was too far away otherwise the authorities would be inundated by emails from certain jobsworths on here.

Is it the case that the manservants in Terry-Thomas's time are now the inflatable boat owners of today looking to get their own back on their former masters?

I see a grudging resentment by many on here of the "devil may care" attidude so typified by the ruling class that once made this country great...
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To be honest there does not seem much wrong with that,It doesnt look that close, I would hazard a guess at 50-60ft and at least 200 feet from the coast.The pilot is banking port side at 10 degrees and as he exits the needles there is a reasonable gap clearly visable
the bottom line is .even if your flying within limits and within the law, if its going to piss someone off,just do it somewhere else.

Ive requested to drop out of radar coverage on occasions and my best is along the River Severn at less than 10 at around 150 knots vne. exhilarating and just me of course...
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