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Old 12 August 2014, 18:35   #31
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If its going around me I aint swimming anywhere... I certainly aint taking a deep breath... I tend to find diving with a life jacket on rather tricky...
A) I never wear a life jacket in the boat for that same reason. If a blind a-hole powerboater is coming at me, I would like to at least dive down 6-8feet. If I get tossed out of the boat, I'd like to have an opportunity to dive down if the boat is circling around me.

B) So, you're going to sit like a duck as the thing is circling around you?
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B. ) Its going around me.

A. ) I've always thought I should stop wearing a lifejacket in-case the kill cord fails and I need to dive down 8 feet to avoid the prop... ...trouble is I'm not sure when I dive down 8 feet that I'll be sure I'm down 8 feet and so I might keep going down and I'll not be sure when I can come back up. How far I've swam, and if I need to come up for air if I can time it right? I suppose what I should do is go out and practice jumping of the a rib at full speed without lifejacket or kill cord and see if I can get the timing right... ...If I don't post here again you'll know my training exercise didn't quite go to plan...

I've read loads of MAIB reports where they say "Was probably killed because was wearing a lifejacket and so couldn't dive under the boat that was coming towards him" - Oh no thats right I've never read on that said that... ...I've read plenty that said "Drowned. Not wearing lifejacket, boat sailed away from him" Go figure...
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Old 12 August 2014, 19:06   #34
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A) I never wear a life jacket in the boat for that same reason..... If I get tossed out of the boat, I'd like to have an opportunity to dive down if the boat is circling around me.
Best not wear the kill cord either then. No way to test your theory if your engine stops when your ejected
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Old 13 August 2014, 00:49   #35
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B. ) Its going around me.

A. ) I've read loads of MAIB reports where they say "Was probably killed because was wearing a lifejacket and so couldn't dive under the boat that was coming towards him" - Oh no thats right I've never read on that said that... ...I've read plenty that said "Drowned. Not wearing lifejacket, boat sailed away from him" Go figure...
1)Boat out of control never just goes "around you". Its all over the place like in that video. If you are strapped in a life jacket, you are a sitting duck.

2)There are plenty of powerboat accidents and ship accidents in general where bigger boat runs you over. Diving helps, believe that. Look all people who didn't know what to do and just sat there like a deer in a headlights. I used to kayak and much prefer to have life jacket next to me than on me. I kayak surfed and during wipe outs your kayak ends up 50 yards away from you when you surface. In a life jacket, you'll never catch up to it; without it it is very doable. Read #4.

3)Salt water is higher density than you by a bit, so if you are in tropical climate like me with warm water currents, you have to really go out of your way to drown.

I fish within 3 miles of shore, sometimes 5 miles....pretty much the typical small rib offshore distance and drowning is not an option. Getting run over by a blind goon is a real concern.

4) Looking like you are a fan of hypotheticals, if you are in a fast current offshore waters and your clumsy self fell out of the boat and the motor is not running, if you are a fast swimmer you actually stand a chance to catch a boat without life jacket. Not so much with life jacket.


I assume most people on here are not really good swimmers/divers, so life jacket might be a more practical alternative. Not wearing a life jacket in certain situation gives you a better chance to rescue yourself.
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1)Boat out of control never just goes "around you". Its all over the place like in that video. If you are strapped in a life jacket, you are a sitting duck.

2)There are plenty of powerboat accidents and ship accidents in general where bigger boat runs you over. Diving helps, believe that. Look all people who didn't know what to do and just sat there like a deer in a headlights. I used to kayak and much prefer to have life jacket next to me than on me. I kayak surfed and during wipe outs your kayak ends up 50 yards away from you when you surface. In a life jacket, you'll never catch up to it; without it it is very doable. Read #4.

3)Salt water is higher density than you by a bit, so if you are in tropical climate like me with warm water currents, you have to really go out of your way to drown.

I fish within 3 miles of shore, sometimes 5 miles....pretty much the typical small rib offshore distance and drowning is not an option. Getting run over by a blind goon is a real concern.

4) Looking like you are a fan of hypotheticals, if you are in a fast current offshore waters and your clumsy self fell out of the boat and the motor is not running, if you are a fast swimmer you actually stand a chance to catch a boat without life jacket. Not so much with life jacket.


I assume most people on here are not really good swimmers/divers, so life jacket might be a more practical alternative. Not wearing a life jacket in certain situation gives you a better chance to rescue yourself.

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A) I never wear a life jacket in the boat for that same reason. If a blind a-hole powerboater is coming at me, I would like to at least dive down 6-8feet. If I get tossed out of the boat, I'd like to have an opportunity to dive down if the boat is circling around me.

B) So, you're going to sit like a duck as the thing is circling around you?
Just realised you're an American!

B) getting shot at isn't pleasant so i can see your logic now.

A) If a blind a-hole is coming at you, why dont you move? (one with eyes would be real scary


See what i mean!
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This kind of aproach should usually be awarded with a Darwin Award... Trouble is most ribbers have already been breading by then and Darwinism doesn't work for flaws that present after reproduction...
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