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Old 05 January 2016, 21:43   #1
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Looking to Purchase Avon Rover R3-10 - Any Thoughts?

I'm new to the RIB world. Wanted an inflatable to putz around the Chesapeake Bay where I live. I came across an Avon rover R3-10 (1990) in very good condition for around $500 but I don't know much about this model. I was thinking about pairing it up with a 6HP 4 stroke Tahatsu. Does this motor sound about right for this dinghy? The dinghy can take up to a 10HP motor. Anyway, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated as this is my first time around. Also, any recommendations on transom beach wheels would also be greatly appreciated. Thanks,

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Old 06 January 2016, 03:32   #2
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A couple of years ago I owned a mint one of these. Hypalon made and would last a lifetime.

A 6hp would be fine and should plane OK one up, perhaps even two up it light weight folks. 10hp would be a lot better though but they get much heavier usually.

Only downside for me was compared with a more modern design the tubes are small and the bow sits flat so they take on loads of spray/water when it's choppy. For their size they feel smaller to be in than the sort of designs that are common from around 2000 onwards.

This was mine and the Trem brand wheels I had fitted...
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Old 06 January 2016, 06:32   #3
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I love those wheels. The owner said he'd throw in a 6 hp Tohatsu with only 4 hrs on it for $1300 total, RIB included. Wish it were an 8 HP but then price jumps too. Yours looks really nice. Glad to hear they last a while.
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Old 06 January 2016, 07:30   #4
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I love those wheels. The owner said he'd throw in a 6 hp Tohatsu with only 4 hrs on it for $1300 total, RIB included. Wish it were an 8 HP but then price jumps too. Yours looks really nice. Glad to hear they last a while.
Technically, it's a SIB (soft-hull inflatable boat)...

I had a 1993 Avon Rover 315 Rollaway. Very similar boat with a roll-out plastic decking on top of a keel. I ran it with a 1966 Johnson MQ11C and was very happy with the performance.


You can see the amount of spray coming off...that's my fault, I needed to shim the engine up about 15mm.

Keep in mind, the boat is only rated for the weights encountered with 2-strokes... a 9.9hp 4-stroke could quickly overweight the transom by 25-50 lbs, which can seriously upset performance. You should keep the maximum engine weight at less than 100 lb.
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Old 06 January 2016, 07:43   #5
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I think the Tohatsu 4 stroke 6HP engine is around 65 lbs if I'm correct. I didn't know this was a SIB as it was listed as a RIB. Kind of bummed about that...I was trying to locate some pics of the hull but couldn't find any. I'm going to see it this evening.

However, from what I've read, there are some advantages of having a SIB in terms of beach launching and transporting in your vehicle so maybe this is the way to go.
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I think the Tohatsu 4 stroke 6HP engine is around 65 lbs if I'm correct. I didn't know this was a SIB as it was listed as a RIB. Kind of bummed about that...I was trying to locate some pics of the hull but couldn't find any. I'm going to see it this evening.

However, from what I've read, there are some advantages of having a SIB in terms of beach launching and transporting in your vehicle so maybe this is the way to go.
Oops, I was looking at Fenlander's photo!

It could be a RIB...but it is probably a SIB. Avon did make a ROVER RIB, but it will be very obvious... the transom will be white fiberglass with gray tubes (I don't think they did white tubes in 1990). On the SIBs, the transom is painted gray.
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Old 06 January 2016, 09:21   #7
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Here are some pics that may shed more light on the RIB vs SIB issue. Also, I've seen that some of these Rovers have wooden floors and transoms however this one, though listed as having such, has grey flooring, etc. Were some of these models painted grey or is that an after-market deal? Like I said, ANY info would be appreciated on this model including whether or not it's a good deal, etc.https://smd.craigslist.org/boa/5333054400.html
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Here are some pics that may shed more light on the RIB vs SIB issue. Also, I've seen that some of these Rovers have wooden floors and transoms however this one, though listed as having such, has grey flooring, etc. Were some of these models painted grey or is that an after-market deal? Like I said, ANY info would be appreciated on this model including whether or not it's a good deal, etc.https://smd.craigslist.org/boa/5333054400.html
It's a SIB. Note the wood panel flooring? The floor and transom have been repainted though.

Two notes:
1.) Repainted transom? Check for rot! People often just paint over rot, rather than fix it. Look for mushiness underneath where it glues to the boat.
2.) That boat is missing valve caps... I think I see one dangling. If they're missing, that could be a problem. For a 100% air seal, caps are required with a good o-ring. I think that boat has obsolete valves, and caps may not be available anymore.
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Old 06 January 2016, 10:49   #9
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I just asked the seller about the valve covers. Hopefully he has them. Are there any other issues I should be concerned with? Do you think the 6HP Tohatsu is appropriate for this 10' SIB?
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I just asked the seller about the valve covers. Hopefully he has them. Are there any other issues I should be concerned with? Do you think the 6HP Tohatsu is appropriate for this 10' SIB?
Boat looks pretty good. Inspect for damage around the cones, check how well the rubrail is glued on (easy fix, just tedious), and check the material. The material should be smooth. If it is very rough to the touch, that means the material is degraded.

Edge fraying is normal, as is very minor edge ungluing for a boat that age.

6hp 4st Tohatsu should be fine. I'm 5'8 , 150 lb and I got a Zodiac YL310R RIB to plane with a 6hp 4st Merc just fine by myself with about 50 lb of tools in it. You may be able to get it to plane with 2 people, but it'll be a struggle.
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