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Old 12 January 2007, 11:17   #31
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RE: Superhawk - V45

Without trying to sound like i'm having a go..I don't think you can call the superhawk 43 and the v45 similar boats. The superhawk is a high performance ( 50 knots with the big engines) boat representing sunseekers performance heritage. The V45 is a "cruise in comfort" style boat. I think also because the 43 has the stepped hull there is a premium to pay for the production costs of that.
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Old 12 January 2007, 11:21   #32
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Without trying to sound like i'm having a go..I don't think you can call the superhawk 43 and the v45 similar boats. The superhawk is a high performance ( 50 knots with the big engines) boat representing sunseekers performance heritage. The V45 is a "cruise in comfort" style boat. I think also because the 43 has the stepped hull there is a premium to pay for the production costs of that.
Your quite right and i'd agree, they are two totally different breeds of boat. But I was demonstrating in my opinion that the Princess for similar size and cost was (in my opinion) much better value for money.

The majority of the excess cost in the sunseeker, price for price will be in the engines and drive gear - especially if you order one with triples.
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Old 12 January 2007, 11:36   #33
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My first visit to Excel. been to Earls Court many times. Not as big as I had hoped. Went with £20k to spend on new Rib but came away with nothing. Helpful guy on Ribcraft stand but he told me that he was a technician and I should speak to a salesman ... they were all too busy drinking coffee though. The other item i went to buy was a new hand held gps, unlike Mouldy's experience i found that the Garmin rep. I spoke to couldn't really be bothered. He had obviously been up late the night before! The Garmin glossy was expensively produced but didnt tell you anything and all in American!

The other disappointment was the lack of information that the outboard manufacturers have. I didnít get any of them to provide fuel consumption figures!

I would agree with earlier posters that the Southampton show is much the better.
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Old 12 January 2007, 12:19   #34
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Re: Ss43,v45

Following you now Chris. But i guess if you look at the list price for the 55 predator ( arnies + 3 cabins) is near 800k then the 43 does'nt seem to bad. I think Princess represent good value accross their whole range compared with equivalent builders. I think the 43 was a bit of a let down for me. I don't think SS quite knew how to follow the superhawk 48.
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Old 12 January 2007, 13:47   #35
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Yes, I thought the 48 was a very pretty boat, I find the side view of the new 43 a bit 'bulky' - needs a nose job of about 5ft I rekon. You'll have to excuse my defensiveness over Sunseeker comparsons i'm afraid! - I once had to write 13,000 words on their design for a dissertation and I think it did something to my brain
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Old 12 January 2007, 16:42   #36
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Sunseekers best design period was early n90s/late 80s and then late 90s and into the millenium. I think the current range is a bit...well as you said "bulky". I think the 48 is stunning, and of course the 75 predator.

Sorry about the thread drift a bit.
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Old 12 January 2007, 19:06   #37
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Just got back from a great day at Excel; dead easy to get there, parked under-cover 100yds from the entrance and then nearly seven hours of wandering around drooling over fantastic kit.
Had a good chat with Charlie on the Ribcraft stand who were showing a 5.85, a 4.8, a 6.5 (or 6.3) and a 750 Sport with a 300hp Suzuki (there was a cutaway version on the Suzuki stand - very impressive).
Chandlery bargains thin on the ground and not as much stuff or exhibitors as Southampton.
All Excel staff were very helpful and all sales people eager to help from all makes; couldn't fault anybody.
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Had a great day at the LBS yesterday. Spent 6 hours there but could have done with another 4 or 5. RIB Manufacturers present were:

Ribcraft (had show deals on - up to £2k off a 5.85 package)
XS Ribs
Tornado
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Ribtec (a sole 635)
Valiant (had some great show deals on)
Bladerunner
SeaHawk (new Rib from the Whiteshark guys)
Tohatsu
Sealegs
Avon / Bombard / Zodiac
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Plus a couple from a small Polish manufacturer

Below are some pictures of the new Avon 580. Apologies for the quality, my lense wasn't wide enough and I'd been at the Guinness stand for a bit
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Old 14 January 2007, 11:31   #39
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Some more pics below:

1. The Ribcraft 750 Sport with 300hp Suzuki (other boats on the stand were a 5.85, 4.8 and a 6.3)
2. The new Sea Hawk from Kelt (White Shark). Absolutely awesome boat (60k though!) http://www.seahawk-boats.com/presentation_uk.htm
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Anyone know what Avon are doing with the new hull design? Design innovation or gimmic?
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