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Old 22 July 2007, 06:37   #11
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Its not the licensed fisherman that cause all of the problems its the illegal fishing that obviously doesn't work under regulations thats a big part of it! illegal fishing is a big problem in some areas. unlicensed and Illegal gill netting is also common place on some parts of our coast which is a hazard to surfers and boats The licensed fisherman who are trying to earn a living, paying all of their taxes and trying to work under regulations often get a bad name through no fault of their own, Tighter laws on illegal fishing is whats needed before the guys that try and earn an honest living are bombarded with more legislation.
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Old 22 July 2007, 08:20   #12
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Tighter laws on illegal fishing is whats needed before the guys that try and earn an honest living are bombarded with more legislation.

I should imagine all the laws are in place. Its probably down to the fact they are not enforced.

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Old 22 July 2007, 08:59   #13
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I should imagine all the laws are in place. Its probably down to the fact they are not enforced.

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Yer your probably right, i guess thats what i meant in a round about way
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Old 22 July 2007, 09:03   #14
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I should imagine all the laws are in place. Its probably down to the fact they are not enforced.

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Yer your probably right, i guess thats what i meant in a round about way
That depends which part of the coast you're on!

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Old 22 July 2007, 09:29   #15
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SDG,

Are you saying that you have sufficent enforcement in your area. If so can you get a piccy of a Proper Lobster Pot Marker ?

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Looks like this is an ongoing thread over at YBW.

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showflat.p...ge=0&fpart=all

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Its not the licensed fisherman that cause all of the problems its the illegal fishing that obviously doesn't work under regulations thats a big part of it! illegal fishing is a big problem in some areas. unlicensed and Illegal gill netting is also common place on some parts of our coast which is a hazard to surfers and boats The licensed fisherman who are trying to earn a living, paying all of their taxes and trying to work under regulations often get a bad name through no fault of their own, Tighter laws on illegal fishing is whats needed before the guys that try and earn an honest living are bombarded with more legislation.
The licensed fisherman in the solent are the problum in my opinon black cans covered in weed that sit just below the surface at the top of the tide
A sploge of white paint would help them and us at no great cost
You always had a float with flag on it Atatched by a short line so it didint get draged down in a tide rip
Some were a bit rough & ready but at lest you could see them
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Old 22 July 2007, 13:01   #18
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SDG,

Are you saying that you have sufficent enforcement in your area. If so can you get a piccy of a Proper Lobster Pot Marker ?

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Er, sort of! I was talking more generally about the enforcement of fisheries legislation though.

The MCA do publish a leaflet with 'suggested' ways of marking fishing gear but I don't believe there is an actual law regarding it. Obviously as in Portsmouth there are local bylaws in force regulating gear positioning and marking.

Most of the local sea fisheries committees have various permit schemes, especially for shellfish and usually part of the terms of the issue of the permit require identification of the owner on them - often the vessel licence number.

If you believe the fishing is illegal or by unlicensed boats/divers/etc. then a call to the local committee often works wonders. For example in Sussex under local byelaws you can only take 2 lobsters per person per day unless you have a permit which is only issued to licenced fishing boats. Also hauling other peoples pots to remove the catch is theft and the police, with sufficent eveidence, will treat it seriously. Record boat names, numbers, colours, times, positions, number of people on board, etc.

Also only buy from reputable outlets so you don't support the illegal fishing. (You have to be registered with DEFRA to sell fish to the public.)

One of the problems with large markers, with lights/radar reflectors is mostly cost and of course the other on a lot of the smaller boats is space available on board. Also another problem is line length - too long and it lays on the surface at slack water (although leaded line is an option the cost is a factor again), too short and the markers sit below the surface in the current or at high water.

Best look out, avoiding known areas - especially tight inshore in rocky areas and rope cutters is the best option.

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PS I m not a fisherman before anyone suggests it!
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I could only find Bye Laws regarding pot marking for the UK.

I suppose it would help if the Bye Law enforcers got off their back sides and did some enforcing. Probably too busy doing some useless Diversity Training or other pointless Target driven task.
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I could only find Bye Laws regarding pot marking for the UK.

I suppose it would help if the Bye Law enforcers got off their back sides and did some enforcing. Probably too busy doing some useless Diversity Training or other pointless Target driven task.
True!

But I assure you that sea fisheries byelaws are rigourously enforced in Sussex!

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