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Old 20 June 2005, 13:03   #11
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You're not as old as you look then..
Hmm, thanks Jono,


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Old 20 June 2005, 13:11   #12
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Old 21 June 2005, 00:38   #13
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Nah mate, just had a hard paper round
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Old 21 June 2005, 05:13   #14
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A few thoughts on all this:

1) If you go in the water unconsious without a lifejacket (auto inflating or the fixed kind) you will most likely die

2) A great deal of people never have considered some of the things that could go wrong on a boat, causing them to end up in the water, especially when injured.

3) People do have the right to choose if they wear one or not, however it is not just about them. Families and personal responsibilities aside, you having to be airlifted or rescued by the coastguard or lifeboat due to not wearing a life jacket could mean someone else has to wait for their emergency that was not/less preventable.

4) Education should be the answer - making it compulsory to at least watch a video of the "Blood on the asphalt" style, but with a marine setting. Something to jolt people and make them think would probably be effective.

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Old 21 June 2005, 05:32   #15
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In Ireland wearing your lifejacket was recently made the law!!

Anybody travelling on board a craft 7 metres or less in length must wear a lifejacket.

Also all children (under 16yrs) must wear a lifejacket while travelling on leisure craft, regardless of length.

Fines are €127 per person. A lifejacket costs a lot less although IMHO you can't put a price on a life!!
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Old 21 June 2005, 05:38   #16
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Saw a big (8m ish) diesel Scorpion with three adults and three children on board in the dark coming back into Lymington at way above the 6 knot limit. Youngest - girl about 7 - leaning over the nose looking at the fluorescence (or is it phophorescence). Not one life jacket between them.
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Old 21 June 2005, 06:47   #17
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1) If you go in the water unconsious without a lifejacket (auto inflating or the fixed kind) you will most likely die
Scare mongering why would you be unconscious sure some people might be but the chances are that you won’t. Anyway you can still die with a life jacket on
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2) A great deal of people never have considered some of the things that could go wrong on a boat, causing them to end up in the water, especially when injured.
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The facts are that more people drown on inland waters than at sea and usually while doing something not related to boating e.g. walking the dog and fall in.So boating is not the risk you think it is equally Should everyone wear a lifejacket all the time

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3)......rescued by the coastguard or lifeboat due to not wearing a life jacket could mean someone else has to wait for their emergency that was not/less preventable.
This is tenuous because you could argue that all accidents occur as a result of not taking appropriate actions and whether it is not wearing a lifejacket or getting the bends from miscalculating your stops both are equally preventable
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4) Education should be the answer.......
I agree but it should voluntary

I wear a lifejacket when the conditions dictate and that is both weather and vessel. But I do not agree with telling people that they must wear a lifejacket. In certain situations on a yacht, for example, that can be positively dangerous, the chances of getting tangled up in the sheets or guys while doing a spinnaker drop are greatly increased if you wear a lifejacket.
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Old 21 June 2005, 09:27   #18
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I can't believe this conversation .... anybody that does not wear a life jacket is either stupid or so up themselves that they think they don't need one, as it will never happen to them.
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.... either stupid or so up themselves ....
Whilst you are obviously a well balanced and socially graced individual...
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mmmmmm.....the thought police arrive on this forum once again.

Sometimes I get the impression that the waterbourne equivalent of the bible bashers appear sitting on high proclaiming how we should indulge in our hobby.

Well no thanks -if I want to wear a life jacket I will and if I don't I won't ;

Of course if you take the argument to the full ribbing and boating would be banned as dangerous and you can all sit at home with your jackets inflated around your survival suits,spare engines running, sea anchor trailing out of the window and ....try to remember what it used to be like
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