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Old 09 August 2004, 14:01   #1
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Level Two course

Can anyone recomend a good place close to southampton to take the National Powerboat Certificate (Level Two course ).
Also any more courses worth taking please let me know

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Old 09 August 2004, 14:11   #2
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There are a few instructors in the Southampton area who post here: Rogue Wave, Paul Glatzel and Tim Griffin spring to mind. I haven't had tuition experience with any of them but have heard good things and have met two of them and they are top blokes. I did my PB2 with Dave Robson of and it was a great experience - he taught me lots and was very patient and also a good laugh.

Once you've done PB2 you need to get some experience under your belt before going on to Intermediate and then Advanced level courses. My other half (Richard B) has also done his Day Skipper (theory & practical) and highly recommends it. You should also get your VHF certificate if you use a radio (either fixed or handheld).



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Old 09 August 2004, 15:02   #3
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SWAC ... its under the Itchen bridge on the Southamption Side. Very good school.
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Old 09 August 2004, 15:10   #4
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Just done mine with Rouge Wave Stu at first wave. Superb and spent far more time actually out on the water than normal to these courses. Learnt a lot of very handy stuff and I am now confident going out on the water. PM Rouge Wave, you won't regret it!
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Old 09 August 2004, 15:34   #5
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Hi Mike

I did my Powerboat Level 2 course with Paul Glatzel @, they are based in Poole so not too far from Southampton. I found them to be an excelent school, all the instructors were informative, they have a nice selection of Ribs which everyone took it in turns to drive, from an Avon 5.6m to the Scorpion 8.5m. It was quite an eye opener to see just how differently the various Ribs were to manouvere, with every aspect of launching, mooring alongside a pontoon, high speed handling plus a great deal more, all covered at great length and in a variety of different ribs. Just clocking up a bit more experience before I book my intermediate with them.
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Old 09 August 2004, 21:40   #6
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A friend of mine is an Advanced Instructor with his own RTC. Usually does courses for sailing clubs, Scouts etc and would be very well priced compared to a full commercial school.
Please PM me if you would like his details.
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Old 10 August 2004, 02:22   #7
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Always keen to throw my twopennyworth in on such subjects!

There are many good schools to choose from and a few that are less good, so my advice would be to make sure that you contact a few and see what you ‘feel’ about each. A big factor in your assessment should be what you are actually trying to achieve by attaining the qualification. If you simply ‘need’ the Level 2 then you might be drawn to a school that is exceptionally cheap, the school would teach you to the ‘correct’ level but you may not get as much from the course & Instructors as you could with a different school.

Speak to a few schools, see how they interact with you, you will very quickly get a good feel for the outfit and whether they suit your needs.

Other factors you might consider in your assessment:

• Is Powerboating a small part of their business or their particular specialisation?: Personally I would prefer to be trained for someone for whom powerboating is their particular expertise or passion rather than by a multi-disciplined Instructor who only runs a few such courses per annum
• How have they developed and evolved their courses, how much time is spent on the water: The recommendation is for 80-90% of the time on the water and to cover as many of the subjects on the water in a practical way as possible. (You'd be surprised that many outfits have riveting (not!) powerpoint slides covering every hull type known to man whilst others cover that session in a few minutes whilst wandering around a marina - such differences in approach make a big difference) - the reccomendations & suggestions in the 2004 Logbook & Guidance Notes for Instructors will probably have made a difference to how they approach the course.
• How experienced are their Instructors?: Achieving the standard for Level 2 is one thing, the knowledge that passes down from an experienced Instructor can make a very big difference to a course.
• Can they offer the full range of courses?: This may make a difference in terms of your future ambitions
• How do they present themselves in terms of literature and websites etc?: It is comparatively easy to create a website that creates a façade, that said how a business presents itself is very indicative of their overall approach
• What boats do they use and how well 'specced' are they, are any of them 'coded'?
• Do you get to try more than one boat?
• Are there plenty of others on the course to learn from?: In some situations a one to one course is preferable, I would suggest though that at Level 2 you can learn as much from watching the others helming as you do by doing it yourself. In a one to one situation you don’t always get the chance to ‘step back’
• Can you go onto to take your Advanced, Instructors or shorebased courses with them?
• Do they sound like you will enjoy being with them for the duration of your course?
• Do they run a good number of courses each year or does it appear rather occasional?
• Are they able to help you on other aspects of boating like which items of safety gear to buy & where to get it for less?
• Is the course reasonably priced?: Depends what you want as, the course should be value for money, the most expensive will not be best and the cheapest not worst.

Good luck

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Old 10 August 2004, 02:34   #8
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Hi Mike

Agree with Paul on all of the above.

The big aspect would be for me - Are we only going to go three miles from launch site?

On another note, what would one expect to pay for a Level 2 in the Southampton Area?
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Old 10 August 2004, 02:42   #9
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Good list of questions to ask there Paul.
A chap yesterday on the marina asked if I could better £125.00 for the 2 day level 2 on the school rib all inclusive which he had been quoted elsewhere.
I asked about the type of boat he would be doing it on etc he said "some small thing!" Sums it all up really!

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Old 10 August 2004, 02:59   #10
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We did advanced & radio with Dave Robson (Aquapower) , Yarmouth. He'll pick mainlanders up in Lymington also. He was great...inspired confidence.

Having said that we also met Tim Griffin at RIBEX & he was very encouraging. Stuart Hopkins is another people person and to be honest the posts by all other Instructors on how professional they are as well as reflective about good practice.

Do we have an Instructor Corner? Apologies if I haven't noticed it. As so many well-respected trainers post on here perhaps their details should be available in one location.


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