Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 25 November 2016, 03:24   #1
Member
 
Paul_S's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Rothesay
Boat name: Solo Angel
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 7m +
Engine: Mercury 150hp
MMSI: 235113072
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 104
Letting go of wheel

OK, probably a dumb question, but not the dumbest I have asked

What should happen if you let go of the wheel. My boat tracks in a reasonably straight line, but some research online suggests I am moments from steering torque taking over, slamming the motor to port, which in turn will turn the boat hard to starboard.

Now I am not suggesting I let go and go make a cup of tea, but what about helm changes etc.
__________________

__________________
Quicksilver Activ 705
Paul_S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 November 2016, 03:43   #2
RIBnet supporter
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,545
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul_S View Post
OK, probably a dumb question, but not the dumbest I have asked



What should happen if you let go of the wheel. My boat tracks in a reasonably straight line, but some research online suggests I am moments from steering torque taking over, slamming the motor to port, which in turn will turn the boat hard to starboard.



Now I am not suggesting I let go and go make a cup of tea, but what about helm changes etc.

Cable or hydraulic ?? Chalk & cheese
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4: See rule#5
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 November 2016, 03:49   #3
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Mercury
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
MMSI: 235074042
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,537
only needs a wave to change the direction of the boat, personnally i never let go one hand on the throttle one on the wheel stop to change drivers, as dave says cable different from hydraulic more play in cable OMO
__________________
jeffstevens763@g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 November 2016, 04:06   #4
Member
 
Mextli's Avatar
 
Country: Germany
Town: Nuremberg
Boat name: November
Make: Avon Searider 4M
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55
MMSI: 211748930
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 312
RIBase
On flat sea when I let go of my SR4s steering wheel it wilk keep going on in a straight line. As soon as there js a bit of movement in the water it will slowly start to go off course.

Havent yet tried it in big waves for obvious reasons.
__________________
Cheers
Luke

Searider+Yamaha+Land Rover= :D :D
Mextli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 November 2016, 04:17   #5
RIBnet supporter
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,545
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mextli View Post
....... it wilk keep going on in a straight line.

That'd be a first

Properly functioning Hydraulic steering will stay where you put it, if the valves are leaking in the helm it will creep to Stbd. Cable depends on the actual make, some claim to be NFB, No Feed Back. This will reduce the tendency to creep, but it will still do so, just not as dramatically. With normal cable steering, just don't let go
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4: See rule#5
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 November 2016, 04:19   #6
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Make: Redbay Boats
Length: 9m +
Engine: 370hp
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,905
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul_S View Post
...but what about helm changes etc.
IMO, possibly the WORST time to have no hands on the wheel!

I'll admit to doing "live" helm changes, and only ever in calm water at reduced speeds. The swap follows the same pattern every time - agree swap, power back, exiting helm holds wheel and steps away from the throttle/seat - replacement immediately steps in behind them and says "my boat" at the point they are about to take control - outgoing helm releases grip on wheel. Generally I just stop the boat for helm changes - and always stop with less experienced drivers.

Damn sure I wouldn't want two people grappling for control if there was a sudden change in circumstances
__________________
"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?"
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 November 2016, 04:53   #7
Member
 
Paul_S's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Rothesay
Boat name: Solo Angel
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 7m +
Engine: Mercury 150hp
MMSI: 235113072
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 104
It has hydraulic steering.
__________________
Quicksilver Activ 705
Paul_S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 November 2016, 04:55   #8
RIBnet supporter
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,545
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul_S View Post
It has hydraulic steering.

In which case, assuming its working properly, there should be no drama if you let go. It's still not something I'd want to do at speed or in the rough though.
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4: See rule#5
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 November 2016, 05:30   #9
Member
 
Paul_S's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Rothesay
Boat name: Solo Angel
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 7m +
Engine: Mercury 150hp
MMSI: 235113072
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 104
Like I said, it tracks straight...just worried about it suddenly veering over.

__________________
Quicksilver Activ 705
Paul_S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 November 2016, 06:31   #10
Member
 
Country: Ireland
Town: Donegal Bay
Make: ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: outboard 200hp
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk View Post
IMO, possibly the WORST time to have no hands on the wheel!

I'll admit to doing "live" helm changes, and only ever in calm water at reduced speeds. The swap follows the same pattern every time - agree swap, power back, exiting helm holds wheel and steps away from the throttle/seat - replacement immediately steps in behind them and says "my boat" at the point they are about to take control - outgoing helm releases grip on wheel. Generally I just stop the boat for helm changes - and always stop with less experienced drivers.

Damn sure I wouldn't want two people grappling for control if there was a sudden change in circumstances
Surely this method will give the new driver all sorts of problems as you have just walked away with the kill cord and the new driver will be wondering why he can't get the boat to go??
__________________

__________________
Ribtec1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:53.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.