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Old 18 November 2009, 17:33   #41
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They sink....
Is that an official recommendation?

If washed up on the beach they are a safety hazard for inquisitive children; become the CG's problem and therefore cost our tax payers money; and chucking any waste overboard - especially flares isn't very eco friendly...
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Old 18 November 2009, 17:54   #42
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Mine ran out in September but I believe they will be Ok for another couple of years. I have 2 parachutes 2 red hand helds and 2 orange smokes and I am always within sight of land so recon I will rtake my chances.

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Is that an official recommendation?

If washed up on the beach they are a safety hazard for inquisitive children; become the CG's problem and therefore cost our tax payers money; and chucking any waste overboard - especially flares isn't very eco friendly...
I never recommended it. In what capacity would it be an official recommendation?
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Old 18 November 2009, 18:30   #44
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In what capacity would it be an official recommendation?
Either an official "Chewy" recommendation or even as an RNLI helmsman... unlike you I didn't think it was unreasonable for Blackroady to seek advice from them.

Unfortunately you've probably planted the idea in a few people's heads now who had never previously considered dumping live explosives in the sea...
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Unfortunately you've probably planted the idea in a few people's heads now who had never previously considered dumping live explosives in the sea...
... Jaysus Bhoys that's an awful night out on the water. I could have been killed! And all to get rid of a few pyrotechnics. Next time I'm ignoring the RNLI and going to a Linfield match instead
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Either an official "Chewy" recommendation or even as an RNLI helmsman... unlike you I didn't think it was unreasonable for Blackroady to seek advice from them.

Unfortunately you've probably planted the idea in a few people's heads now who had never previously considered dumping live explosives in the sea...
First of all I would like to thank you for promoting me to Helm, I will inform my station of your decision.

If you feel that masses of RIB users will now be throwing out of date flares into the sink please delete my "recommendation".
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This legislation applies to the use (and misuse) of distress signals:

The Merchant Shipping (Safety of Navigation) Regulations 2002, which came into force 1/7/2002, is the statutory instrument which brought into force in the UK the 1974 SOLAS Convention as amended - including Chapter V. MSN 1812 in 2007 amended some parts of the 2002 document, but not Regulation 35 which is the applicable one here. Most of the SOLAS convention only applies to large commercial ships, but parts of Chapter V apply to small, privately owned pleasure craft.

The regulations are summarised in a little booklet available from the MCA, or download from here http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/lrgtxt/solas.pdf.

The actual text of Reg 35 is below ...

MISUSE OF DISTRESS SIGNALS

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1. The use of an international distress signal, except for the purpose of indicating that a person or persons are in distress, and the use of any signal which may be confused with an international distress signal are prohibited
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This legislation applies to the use (and misuse) of distress signals:

The Merchant Shipping (Safety of Navigation) Regulations 2002, which came into force 1/7/2002, is the statutory instrument which brought into force in the UK the 1974 SOLAS Convention as amended - including Chapter V. MSN 1812 in 2007 amended some parts of the 2002 document, but not Regulation 35 which is the applicable one here. Most of the SOLAS convention only applies to large commercial ships, but parts of Chapter V apply to small, privately owned pleasure craft.

The regulations are summarised in a little booklet available from the MCA, or download from here http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/lrgtxt/solas.pdf.

The actual text of Reg 35 is below ...

MISUSE OF DISTRESS SIGNALS

Regulation 35

1. The use of an international distress signal, except for the purpose of indicating that a person or persons are in distress, and the use of any signal which may be confused with an international distress signal are prohibited
You seem to have missed the bit out about getting rid of them!
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Old 19 November 2009, 03:25   #49
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First of all I would like to thank you for promoting me to Helm, I will inform my station of your decision..
maybe I have the wrong Chewy? http://www.rnli.org.uk/rnli_near_you...Yorkshire/crew
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To clarify I emailed the RNLI about arranging a flare demo - alot of boat users near me that I know are keen to ' have a go' ........ its a shame there was no response.

I'd rather play safe & while I can see advantage & disadvantage of handing them in etc - I've paid good money so would like to get some benefit from them. - ie experience of setting them off.

Sounds like no-one really wants them anyway - so out comes the welding gloves etc and off we go. I cant see I can be getting involved in the merchant shipping act 20 miles inland !

Sorry if I misled anyone.
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