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Old 01 May 2009, 06:57   #31
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Thanks John - good stuff ( if a lot of bluster as you say ). Based on this whats the chance of a ribnet flare demo someplace & time ?

I can see some open land near a pub named after Winston Churchill , on top of a hill appearing through the mist ( or is that flare smoke? ) ...............
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Can anyone point me to the legislation that makes firing of distress flares on land an offence?

So far, all I can come up with is the Distress Signals and Prevention of Collisions regulations which apply only to distress signals fired from a vessel.

I've just put this in a separate thread as it got a bit lost in the big distress flare discussion!
I think you could be prosecuted under the firearms act every body has covered just about every marine option and near airfields and military establishments [ same as the use of lasers ] you used to be able too hand old [out of date flares] in to mca or rnli for disposal but thats been stopped
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Based on this whats the chance of a ribnet flare demo someplace & time ?
Just ask the RNLI Sea Safety guys - they'll organise and put on a demo for you, and provide the flares, all the organisation, permissions etc etc, and no charge.

Why risk prosecution (or even simply p*ssing off the Coastguard) when there is a system already in place?
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I think you could be prosecuted under the firearms act every body has covered just about every marine option and near airfields and military establishments [ same as the use of lasers ]
Why do you think that? Is it based on any specific legislation?
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Just ask the RNLI Sea Safety guys - they'll organise and put on a demo for you, and provide the flares, all the organisation, permissions etc etc, and no charge.

Why risk prosecution (or even simply p*ssing off the Coastguard) when there is a system already in place?
Because they won't let you fire the flares, and there's no risk of prosecution because it's not illegal.

If you go about things sensibly, and have the courtesy to let the Coastguard what you are doing, then there's no reason for them to be pissed off either,
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regards to the lazer types our local police helicopter is supposidly being fitted with a gadet that can track the point of fire owing to some clown aiming one at an inbound passenger jet from a parked car at the end of the runway at our local airport that tempory blinded the pilot .,,but as in anythng if its if it is willfully aimed at some one or some thing to cause harm or damageits against the law but apart from the old very pistol types i am not too sure if normal distress flares rocket or hand helds are classed as fire arms ,its a grey area but i was told that a firearm has to have a projectile fired from a barrel, with the rocket types the plastic outer sleave is only for protection and is not classed as a barrell as in theory its the barrel that shoots out and not the other way around ,is there any one out there that can clear this grey area up regarding the firearms law .i have also being looking into the eventual phase out of the pyrotecnic flares and it seems that its the chemical residues left after burning that seems to be causing concern with authorities ,
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So to drag this up again . My inshore flares expire in Dec - so I have emailed my local RNLI station and had no reply. As a result I intend to drive someway inland and set the things off in a freinds field / farm - well away from anyone or thing.

If I never post again I have burnt to death using these deadly things we all carry.

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So to drag this up again . My inshore flares expire in Dec - so I have emailed my local RNLI station and had no reply. As a result I intend to drive someway inland and set the things off in a freinds field / farm - well away from anyone or thing.

If I never post again I have burnt to death using these deadly things we all carry.

Pete
What are your local Lifeboat Station meant to do with them? We had a load of out of date ones on station and the bom squad was down for a UXB. Even they wouldn't take them as we had too many.
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So to drag this up again . My inshore flares expire in Dec - so I have emailed my local RNLI station and had no reply. As a result I intend to drive someway inland and set the things off in a freinds field / farm - well away from anyone or thing.

If I never post again I have burnt to death using these deadly things we all carry.

Pete
The RNLI aren't allowed to take them. Try the Coastguard - in most areas they will still take small numbers of flares from leisure (not commercial) users. In some areas around us the police will take them, but that doesn't always work very well
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