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Old 23 June 2019, 09:59   #1
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Layout options on mid size ribs

So SWMBO May have cracked......

What size set ups suit a 2+2 layout? As in SxS helm and seats behind. Would be looking at something under 6m over 4m all up rig needs to be under 1500kg for towing car is FWD with 1600/1800kg max towing weight but most launching would be concrete ramps or tractors if beach launching. Budget would be limited and if it would have to reside on a mooring ££££ or a yard somewhere....

Budget Iím not sure yet...... wonít be much....

Needs to cope with rough conditions as I personally love it in the rough stuff but that will be without SWMBO... warm summer days and moderate conditions for group outings. I donít mind jockey consoles but not motorcycle style for the helm which is usual.

Seen one interesting layout almost like a bowrider rather than a single helm console.

Presumably the width at the point the helm is fitted is the limiting factor as most helms are forward. Would a more sternward helm (like the ride ride boats) be possible with passenger seating in front? Anyoneís seen this layout on a smaller hull?
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Old 23 June 2019, 10:25   #2
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This is the layout I have seen (not seen it before)

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F273893551920
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Old 23 June 2019, 10:51   #3
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What about the Florida sunshine way !! , must confess i keep this rib to take other familys and children out in ,the layout is something else in the leisure world ,with massive tubes and deep vee tis a bit of a wake up call .
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What about the Florida sunshine way !! , must confess i keep this rib to take other familys and children out in ,the layout is something else in the leisure world ,with massive tubes and deep vee tis a bit of a wake up call .
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THat indeed could be ideal except itís about double what I would want to ideally spend.... if I was spending that much Iíd probably look a bit bigger and only have one watercraft.

I could look at a sports boat but they tend to be heavier so spwouldnt get the space without going to heavy to tow which would mean a mooring only and increase costs and limitations as I donít want to be stuck to the same patch of water....
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I’ve always like the look of the Avon adventure range a 560 would seem to tick the boxes but heard they aren’t ideal in choppy water and tubes are PVC?
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Avon tubes always used to be Hypalon - we bought an Adventure 620 new in 2000, and it was definitely Hypalon. We had ours for 4 years or so, kept afloat and used year round, and were going between Poole, the Solent and Weymouth regularly with no issues. I found ours a really nicely balanced boat with a 115hp 4 stoke, which handled beautifully in most conditions. True, it doesn't have the deepest V out there, but you adjust your driving accordingly.

If you're regularly doing long offshore passages in gnarly weather, then definitely not the first choice boat for you. But for more leisure usage with the occasional bad weather/longer passages, we had absolutely no problems with ours, and took it out in all weathers.
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Thanks good to know, Iíll mostly be between South Wales and north Devon some trips to South Devon Torquay/Brixham and North Wales but wasnít do some longer trips 100+ mile cruises rather than the current 60/75 mile trips I do currently
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I donít mind jockey consoles but not motorcycle style for the helm which is usual.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. I think you are suggesting you don't want to lift your leg over the seat (which is pretty much the definition of a jockey seat!) but perhaps you just don't want the seat and the console connected (a jockey console). Bolsters offer an alternative, but you really want to try them in real conditions as some are better than others.

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Presumably the width at the point the helm is fitted is the limiting factor as most helms are forward. Would a more sternward helm (like the ride ride boats) be possible with passenger seating in front? Anyoneís seen this layout on a smaller hull?
Yes but you are buying second hand on a very narrow budget - don't make it impossible by looking for a weird layout, as if it didn't catch on there may be a reason!

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Thanks good to know, Iíll mostly be between South Wales and north Devon some trips to South Devon Torquay/Brixham and North Wales but wasnít do some longer trips 100+ mile cruises rather than the current 60/75 mile trips I do currently
This to me contradicts the "no jockey seat" point above (unless I am misunderstanding it). There is a reason that configuration is very popular with people who do exactly that sort of journey.
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I didnít say ďno jokey seatsĒ I said I donít want motorcycle (pillion) seating for the helm, perhaps not very eloquently..... I want a car style seating layout not a motorcycle seating layout. Bolsters with wings would be good for me as I tend to stand anyway so yes donít want seat and console all in one prefer a seat/bolster and separate console like this https://images.app.goo.gl/p2K1HF31UrNdDxLz7
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I didnít say ďno jokey seatsĒ I said I donít want motorcycle (pillion) seating for the helm, perhaps not very eloquently..... I want a car style seating layout not a motorcycle seating layout. Bolsters with wings would be good for me as I tend to stand anyway so yes donít want seat and console all in one prefer a seat/bolster and separate console like this https://images.app.goo.gl/p2K1HF31UrNdDxLz7


You wonít be wanting the ones that make a farting noise when you sit on them then?
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You wonít be wanting the ones that make a farting noise when you sit on them then?
That could be quite amusing........
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You wonít be wanting the ones that make a farting noise when you sit on them then?
So it's the seats then????? now I've heard it all.
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So it's the seats then?????


Only the ďjokeyĒ ones, the others are pretty deadpan
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So it's the seats then????? now I've heard it all.
Pay no notice to PD - he gets a bit hyperlon this time of day...
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Hi HDAV, have you consider a jockey seat layout as shown in the link below? It is the configuration that is used in all the SailGP, Invictus and America's Cup chase boats these days and so it well proven, compact (600 centres) and light (16kg) and ideal for transitioning from standing to sitting without needing to slide or adjust anything. They are well priced and locally supported in the UK by Hypro Marine now.

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I hadnít seen them thanks bet they arenít cheap tho.....
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I hadnít seen them thanks bet they arenít cheap tho.....
they are around 1250 plus VAT
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So SWMBO May have cracked......

What size set ups suit a 2+2 layout? As in SxS helm and seats behind. Would be looking at something under 6m over 4m all up rig needs to be under 1500kg for towing car is FWD with 1600/1800kg max towing weight but most launching would be concrete ramps or tractors if beach launching. Budget would be limited and if it would have to reside on a mooring ££££ or a yard somewhere....

Budget I’m not sure yet...... won’t be much....

Needs to cope with rough conditions as I personally love it in the rough stuff but that will be without SWMBO... warm summer days and moderate conditions for group outings. I don’t mind jockey consoles but not motorcycle style for the helm which is usual.

Seen one interesting layout almost like a bowrider rather than a single helm console.

Presumably the width at the point the helm is fitted is the limiting factor as most helms are forward. Would a more sternward helm (like the ride ride boats) be possible with passenger seating in front? Anyone’s seen this layout on a smaller hull?
If you defiantly want a RIB and enjoy the rough stuff .... don't like Jocky seats AND have a curtailed budget....you really need to do some more homework...re-appraise....or start saving!
Not to be negative...just realistic.
The layout in your other post is certainly not conducive to much in the way of Rough Play...
"Jockey" seats have evolved along with RIB design to offer a stable seating option that takes advantage of a RIBs innate ability to cope with Rough seas....Bolster seats are popular with some ...but Bench pleasure boat type seating is very rare for a reason.
In a SMALL fully loaded RIB that layout would IMO be dangerous in anything other than benigne conditions.
Good luck with you're search.
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Max, I think we decided a couple of weeks ago that what the OP meant by jockey seat and what everyone else means is not quite the same thing. He doesnít want seats that are moulded into the console and require swinging a leg over the top.
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