Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 28 July 2014, 06:18   #1
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,823
RIBase
Landsick?

I find if I'm drifting and fishing in lumpy weather I can get seasick, so I now routinely take Stugeron before I go out in anything over F4.

However, I'm noticing more and more that after 10-12 hours on the water I'm staggering like a drunk when I get onto dry land. It lasts for a couple of hours if it's been really lumpy out. Doesn't happen if I don't take Stugeron, but that's not really an option.

Anyone else find that-and any cure apart from alcohol? I find a pint knocks it on the head very fast, but I won't drink anything at all if I'm driving.
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 06:25   #2
Member
 
Ovey's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth(ish)
Boat name: Wings
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F115 AETL
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 615
RIBase
It's just "an effect" that your body gets after moving around for so long. The fluid in the ears is where your balance is regulated from (and where sea-sickness stems from).

Your ears get used to compensating for movement whilst out on the water and continue to compensate for a while after until they catch up and realise you don't need compensation any more. Alcohol (and Stugeron) work on it by numbing the sensation in similar ways.

I used to find that I got it after a couple of weeks at sea (worse in worse weather) and then went ashore.
__________________

__________________
There's weather out there - must be time to RIB!

(Or dive, or ref rugby, or.......)
Ovey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 06:32   #3
Member
 
spartacus's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 60hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,718
RIBase
Do you smoke or drink coffee when you're out?

I used to routinely have coffee and used to be in F4-5 (typical North Sea weather). Felt sea-sick after a couple of hours. Switched to tea or sparkling water, which has worked for me. I save the coffee for dry land.
__________________
Is that with or without VAT?
spartacus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 06:50   #4
RIBnet Supporter
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Make: Redbay Boats
Length: 9m +
Engine: 370hp
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 13,798
RIBase
Stugeron has a strong effect on me - it puts me to sleep! I've stopped taking seasickness pills now and concentrate more on avoiding the circumstances that bring on seasickness. Tricky if you're drift fishing! Things that might help: I find Lucozade settles me quite well. Set up all your traces etc in advance of the drift, so you can focus on the horizon, not what's near you. Try drifting with a sea anchor out - the change in motion might be easier.
__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 06:50   #5
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,823
RIBase
No and no. Strictly soft drinks when I'm out as well.
It's annoying as I don't get any seasickness symptoms at all as long as I take the Stugeron, but I nearly fell flat on my face when I came ashore last week after a long day out!

The sea anchor might not be a bad idea.
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 07:01   #6
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard, Y-162
Make: Aerotec 380, Y-Class
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,010
Glad I'm not the only one, embarrassed to say as a keen boater but I get ridiculously sea/motion sick if I'm not looking at the horizon or doing something, never mind if I just drift and look down for two minutes to rig a line that's me done for the day.

Almost threw on the PB2 when the other guy was driving and I was staring at charts.

Cannot go on a playground roundabout with the kids, just watching them go round makes me spin....

Bloody ridiculous!

[EDIT] - realise this is land-sickness (get that too...) but thought I'd chuck in a contribution...
__________________
Max... is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 07:12   #7
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,823
RIBase
Guys... I'm not having problems with seasickness! It's the after effect of Stugeron that's getting me.

I nearly headbutted the guy behind the counter at a supermarket last week when I was suffering after a long day...
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 09:19   #8
RIBnet Supporter
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Make: Redbay Boats
Length: 9m +
Engine: 370hp
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 13,798
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2 View Post
Guys... I'm not having problems with seasickness! It's the after effect of Stugeron that's getting me.
To some extent you are like me - Stugeron stops you being sick but the side effects are a PITA, mine are just different to yours. My drowsiness gets so bad that people think I'm unwell and would be unsafe to drive. I stopped taking them and try to combat the seasickness by other means.
__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 10:50   #9
Member
 
Boatnomad's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Make: Zodiac Mk I
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15 hp Yam two stroke
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 728
" after 10-12 hours on the water I'm staggering like a drunk when I get onto dry land"
Reckon you are just starting to get your Sea-Legs after that amount of time and when you come ashore you instantly reverse it and get the staggers.
Different for time frame everyone.
__________________
Boatnomad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 11:43   #10
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,653
Does it happen if you take the med without going on the water?

I'd be pressed to figure out if it is an effect of the drug directly (i.e. the drug is causing the dizziness), or an effect of the drug on your body's recovery/adaptation (i.e. the drug is affecting your body's ability to re-adapt to solid ground.)

Have you tried other alternatives to that specific drug? Ginger supposedly works well for a lot of people, as does Dramamine, Bonine, and Scopalamine (all trade names for specific drugs.) Seems to be a matter of finding one that works for you, while generating a minimum of side effects.

FWIW, I don't get seasick, so don't take anything for it, but have felt the "on-the-water" motion a week or more after getting off a liveaboard dive boat (usually at specific times: in the shower, or leaning over a sink.)

jky
__________________
jyasaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 12:10   #11
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Not sure
Make: ABC/Priddy
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 500 FPT
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 928
A couple of jam do nuts and get it over and done with! Alan P
__________________
Alan Priddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 12:31   #12
Member
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 9,298
RIBase
I've suffered with terrible seasickness over the years & experienced the landsicknes that Nos refers to, especially after a long day, or weeks liveaboard. I find that seasickness manifests itself in 3 distinct phases:-
1st, you think you're going to die
2nd, you wish you could die
3rd, you think you have died
Alan is on to something with the jam donuts, I had jam sandwiches recommended to me. They don't stop the vomiting, but make it taste better when you do throw up.
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 13:28   #13
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,823
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by jyasaki View Post
Does it happen if you take the med without going on the water?
No, but I do feel slightly 'out of sync' if I take it when I'm on land.
Oddly the dizzyness doesn't feel like dizzyness (if that makes sense), and when it's at its worst is times I can't see the horizon.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Priddy View Post
A couple of jam do nuts and get it over and done with! Alan P
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave View Post
I've suffered with terrible seasickness over the years & experienced the landsicknes that Nos refers to, especially after a long day, or weeks liveaboard. I find that seasickness manifests itself in 3 distinct phases:-
1st, you think you're going to die
2nd, you wish you could die
3rd, you think you have died
Alan is on to something with the jam donuts, I had jam sandwiches recommended to me. They don't stop the vomiting, but make it taste better when you do throw up.
Bovril works well like that too- it doesn't taste awful coming back up, but you don't get lumps in your sinuses
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 13:34   #14
Member
 
A1an's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Humber Destroyer
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F80
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,322
RIBase
Landsick?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave View Post
Alan is on to something with the jam donuts, I had jam sandwiches recommended to me. They don't stop the vomiting, but make it taste better when you do throw up.


I find a bottle of water and a couple of bananas sorts me out when that "feeling" comes on. I've seen me get it when back on shore if its been quite rough, I can walk it off after a while, sitting down and just roughing it out doesnt seem to work.

I get motion sickness bad, even being a passenger in the back seat of a car does it for me.

We do a bit of work laying out fence lines and deer counting with a chopper, that's the worst for me, if its bouncy at all I'm on my knees when I get out.
__________________
There is a place on this planet for all of Gods creatures.........right next to my tatties and gravy.
A1an is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 15:03   #15
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,531
Try taking half a tablet.
__________________
ShinyShoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 15:07   #16
Member
 
James3402's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 47
Try a different brand of tablets as they are slightly different.
__________________
James3402 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 15:30   #17
RIBnet Supporter
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Make: Redbay Boats
Length: 9m +
Engine: 370hp
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 13,798
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by James3402 View Post
Try a different brand of tablets as they are slightly different.
Worth a try. I received a Personal Message from a RIBnetter suggesting I try a prescription only version...

So there's a thought. As there's plenty on here using a pill to keep it up, why not one to keep it down?
__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 15:32   #18
Member
 
Peter_C's Avatar
 
Country: USA
Boat name: Uh...a kayak?
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,486
I too get the motion of the ocean on dry land after a long period of time on the water. Nothing as the OP described where I am almost falling over though. I do get to where I can't stand straight up unassisted without rocking around a little bit. Never considered my amount a problem.

As JKY suggested I would try switching meds, and even seeing if you can't get completely off them. Ginger, bananas, etc are natural meds to quell sea sickness. Well so is marijuana.

(I have been sea sick on a boat, but so far have never puked. Grew up sailing and we often were on the boat for long stints. My day will come though.)
__________________
Peter_C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2014, 15:52   #19
Member
 
kerny's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,078
RIBase
Send a message via Skype™ to kerny
I have been lucky enough not to have ever experienced seasickness but I do experience a rocking sensation like what others have described on here when back on dry land, but after a few scoops all seems to be normal
__________________

__________________
Member of S.A.B.S. (Lancashire Division)
kerny is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:00.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×