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Old 10 October 2005, 12:29   #1
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Kill cords - again!

I came across THIS today.

Additionally, while on QHM patrol on Saturday I went to assistance of a rib with a big Evinrude on the back which "broke down" half way across from Gunwarf to Ballast. Rib was well loaded and to credit all had LJ's, but driver did not have kill cord attached and problem was he'd not turned the fuel isolator on. Once the fuel had been turned on the rib went on it's way - after I'd reminded the driver perhaps he should attach the kill cord.
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It just makes total sense to wear one. I fail to see any argument against. Not sure about the wireless version though. How would you know whether it was faulty until you needed it in an emergency?
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Old 10 October 2005, 13:48   #3
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It's like seatbelts - once it becomes a habit there's no problem. I agree about the wireless rig though. How would anyone else know it's live and working? At least with a manual chord everyone can see if you're wearing it. (Doesn't mean it works though!)

To be honest it's PWC's that are the main problem vis a vis killchords. It should be mandatory for them. I'd rather educate other boaters on "appropriate speed" first before kill chords. You only have to read these forums - ribbers are mainly obsessed with speed, the reality being that there are very few days you can open it up anyway.
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Old 10 October 2005, 14:42   #4
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As regards wireless kill chords, I would have thought they would be fail safe.
-If the engine is running then its all ok.
Or am I being naive?
I guess the range would be about 5 metres, and just as reliable as my car's key fob.
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I really deon like the way mercury chhose to implement kill cords, It's all too easy to flick the switch and leave it on!
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Roger that! Who needs a killchord on an Opti!! The Suzi method was/is far better, in fact it always paid to keep a spare on the boat, as you were going nowehere if you lost it...
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I really deon like the way mercury chhose to implement kill cords, It's all too easy to flick the switch and leave it on!
I agree with you there. I carry a kill cord with all the possible options on it. It's is very easy just to leave the Mercury/Mariner/Quicksilver switch on.
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I do agree with you all, but one advantage of the Mercury design is you can fit 2 chords at once, 1 for the student and 1 for me.
Incidently I noticed on an ex RNLI D class that they used them! What does that say about the design?

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Merc killcords

One other thing on the quicksilver ones, should the helm fall over and you cant find the spare(yes,should be avail and on show) at least the engine can be restarted to carry out a MOB recovery.
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On my Quicksilver set up, I have a seperate kill switch on the underside of the console which is perfect for attaching around the leg. The Osprey wide console is a little different to most.
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To be honest it's PWC's that are the main problem vis a vis killchords.
All PWC's ive ever been on have spring loaded throttles (ie twist grip or thumb) and therefore if you fall off the thing the engine goes back to tick over and it just sits there going round in circles waitng for you to grab it and get back on... They dont really need kill cords if the throttle behaves like that. Do they ???
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They dont really need kill cords if the throttle behaves like that. Do they ???
Until the wind blows them away...
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I think that it's becoming compulsory in Cornwall that all PWC users have to have a length of baler twine wrapped around their necks and the other end tied to the impellor. When they give it a thumb full they throttle themselves!
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I think that it's becoming compulsory in Cornwall that all PWC users have to have a length of baler twine wrapped around their necks and the other end tied to the impellor. When they give it a thumb full they throttle themselves!
Now thats what you call a KILL cord
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All PWC's ive ever been on have spring loaded throttles (ie twist grip or thumb) and therefore if you fall off the thing the engine goes back to tick over and it just sits there going round in circles waitng for you to grab it and get back on... They dont really need kill cords if the throttle behaves like that. Do they ???
Very true, but they're not infallible. I used to drive a sit on version and whilst it had a spring throttle, it also had a kill chord, a kind of "overkill"?

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One other thing on the quicksilver ones, should the helm fall over and you cant find the spare(yes,should be avail and on show) at least the engine can be restarted to carry out a MOB recovery.
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Thats exactly my point! You don't want to do that and then forget about it which can easily happen. With the plunger type if you really are in trouble then instruct your crew to tie a tie wrap around the plunger. Better still point to em where your spare kill chord is.......better still Don't throw yourself out of the boat when you have passengers aboard.
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Obviously in the school we always wera Kill cords and each instructor carries a spare and there is a spare in each boats emergency box.

Also Hondas have a nice feature, the plug end of a kill cord mounted in an insert on the throttle box as a get you home feature.

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allways wear mine round me leg now thanks to the good advice on here


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kill cords should be compulsary , theres no disadvantage in that , is there?
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kill cords should be compulsary , theres no disadvantage in that , is there?
If you knew what Chris Hartley gets up to chugging up the river at 8knts in the Shiteland. Having a wriggly red thing tied around his leg aswell is a definite disadvantage!
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