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Old 08 May 2013, 17:42   #41
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I never leave the kill cord on the boat always take it out with the keys, think this may help me to remember to conect it to me as well as the boat as it is a reminder rather than just having it fitter permantly to the boat!
But my wife would tell you it because I'm anel about safety
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Old 08 May 2013, 17:43   #42
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Try explaining to the wife and 2 daughters that if it had been a requirement to use a kill cord and if some one was enforcing it, then dad and sister may still be alive?

How may other lives have been affected by this?

How many lives is a reasonable cost to make this simple thing a requirement , someone be brave and tell me how many children have to grow up without parents or siblings?
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Old 08 May 2013, 17:43   #43
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Well there is an interesting suggestion in the other thread that by changing common practise from keeping the cord on the controls and connecting / disconnecting to the user to keeping the cord on the user and disconnecting from the controls as it would reduce risk of forgetting. IF there is a belief that this is actually better practice its something that training centres could start doing easily
twas me I believe. We'll be going that way. There was a thought in the past that attaching to a buoyancy aid/lifejacket was a "bit iffy" as it could come off. Not something I have ever seen any sense in-borne out of an excuse for a big rib running up the beach minus its professional helmsman. I had it a attached to my buoyancy aid but it came off-yeah of course you did!
What I have seen is a helm come out of the seat in a coastguard rib at full chat in an "interesting" sea but fail to activate the switch cos whilst his head was on the deck his foot was adjacent to the switch.
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Try explaining to the wife and 2 daughters that if it had been a requirement to use a kill cord and if some one was enforcing it, then dad and sister may still be alive?

How may other lives have been affected by this?

How many lives is a reasonable cost to make this simple thing a requirement , someone be brave and tell me how many children have to grow up without parents or siblings?
But making it a requirement by law dose not mean this accident would not have happened!
Drink driving is against the law but it still happens and takes lives, how the hell are you going to in force this out in the real world?
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But making it a requirement by law dose not mean this accident would not have happened!
Drink driving is against the law but it still happens and takes lives, how the hell are you going to in force this out in the real world?
Well put!! I think that is the crunch of the matter.
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I'm also going to have a rethink about where we keep our spare (normally buried in a locker).
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The spare killcord needs to be somewhere quickly acessible and obvious. I keep mine & other safetey kit like emergency knife in a cargo net afixed to the console. On my previous boat it was taped next to the wheel. There's bound to be a a place somwhere on your boat, even if looped round a grab-rail.

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But making it a requirement by law dose not mean this accident would not have happened!
Drink driving is against the law but it still happens and takes lives, how the hell are you going to in force this out in the real world?
So we get rid of all laws as they are hard to enforce?
so Drink Driving is OK then we shouldn't have a law against it as its too hard to enforce?
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But making it a requirement by law dose not mean this accident would not have happened!
Drink driving is against the law but it still happens and takes lives, how the hell are you going to in force this out in the real world?
The arrogant irresponsible few will continue to drive without seatbelts / drink drive / drive while holding a mobile phone / not wear lifejackets / refuse to put on the kill cord regardless of legislation or laws.

But if you can educate the majority to the benefits of using a kill cord that's a major win.
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But making it a requirement by law dose not mean this accident would not have happened!
Drink driving is against the law but it still happens and takes lives, how the hell are you going to in force this out in the real world?
That's my thinking too.
  • There's nobody to enforce it.
  • Training costs for mandatory training will skyrocket (as has happened in every sector that has had mandatory training legislated)
  • You cannot legislate against stupidity or genuine oversight.
  • You can only remain out of sight for so long. Ask government to intervene and we'll end up with a 'department' that wants to justify its existence in order to keep themselves in employment.

Educate people. By and large, if people understand the risks they'll wear the kill cord.
Those that don't aren't going to wear the cord if it's made law either.
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