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Old 28 December 2013, 09:06   #1
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Kill cord time

Even lifeguards aren't immune - I appreciate the reasons for the RNLI and others not wearing kill cords but it has always concerned me ...........

Life Guards Lose Control Of Boat Stuck in Full Throttle - Salt Rock Ballito - YouTube
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When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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Old 28 December 2013, 09:17   #2
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Lucky no one was hurt there.
Also must have had the friction set a bit high on the throttle twist grip.
Interesting how the boat behaved..
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after watching that not using a kill cord takes some explaining, whoever you are!
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Old 28 December 2013, 09:52   #4
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That was sickening to watch .i no some of the reasons for not wearing killcord but surely this has to be a good example for wearing ,even if they have to take extra crew to do the work and the driver just drives.surely a rescue where the rescuers are killed or injured is not the desired outcome!

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Down side of riding or sitting on the sponson !
No prop guard fitted either ,, though i recon the tips were well polished up after the beach run : )
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Could someone also answer this.... Why do people sit on the port side to hold the tiller? I learnt to sit on the stbd and have seen this as a safer more comfortable way to control the engine. Thoughts?
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Sitting on the Port tube and operating with the right hand would simply be because the operator is right handed.

Not wearing a kill cord in this type of craft for any reason is unforgivable.

Professionals who do not use kill cords always have foot straps to secure them to the craft. Foot straps would have assisted here, but may have caused injury , but I would prefer both in that swell.

3 persons should have been on that craft in those conditions if it was a genuine emergency the cox should never be anything but in total control of the craft.

People volunteer for different reasons and I suspect these two yahoos thought putting on a show was more important than being professional. There is nothing wrong with going out in these conditions to improve your skill, but safety should be first.

It's stating the obvious but there are still some who don't get it. All on board should be wearing kill cords to use as a spare in an emergency situation.

Both were very fortunate.
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And none had a life jacket. . .
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Scary stuff. Reckon the two lifeguards were very lucky, that boat was completely unpredictable after they ended up in the water.

Why can't all crew be issued with kill-cords, can't see it would compromise them during a rescue. Damn sight safer than their current practice.
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I'm pretty sure (ish)the UK equivalent have kill cords....? IRB's?

H&S isn't something I've ever come across in south Africa ....
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No kill cords on the the uk ones either just a strong return spring on the throttle that should be checked each day .
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No kill cords on the the uk ones either just a strong return spring on the throttle that should be checked each day .
Oh....that tells me .
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Old 28 December 2013, 15:16   #13
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FFS - looked like they were swimming towards the boat too.... so glad the outcome was not as horrific as it coudl so easily have been.
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FFS - looked like they were swimming towards the boat too.... so glad the outcome was not as horrific as it coudl so easily have been.
That's what I thought - took them long enough to get out of the water
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What a pair of numptys!

I noticed that the bloke taking the footage got slightly distracted by the scantily clad females though.
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What a pair of numptys!

I noticed that the bloke taking the footage got slightly distracted by the scantily clad females though.
Yes, he had been "surfing earlier" so was a water minded type. I found it curious that he would calmly sit and video the event. The video seemed to have been compiled and edited (with text) to make a comment, I wonder was there a bit of a local agenda?
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Yes, he had been "surfing earlier" so was a water minded type. I found it curious that he would calmly sit and video the event. The video seemed to have been compiled and edited (with text) to make a comment, I wonder was there a bit of a local agenda?
I reckon that is bang on - if you see the ensuing argument there is definitely some sort of veiled criticism. No one seems to be rushing to the aid of the guys in the water either - even though it looked as if the boat ran over one at the beginning. Looks like bad training all around - and it looks like the "surfer" was "unwilling" to help so continued to film.

I have heard rumours in SA that certain lifeguard jobs have been taken away from skilled experienced people and their jobs given to "friends of the local politicians".
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looks like that a kid is playing with a RC boat ...funny !
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Also shows how unpredictable a boat behaves in the water....without a helm.!


I was also taught the weight pulls the engine to one side and it just keeps going around in a circle.....inevitably ending back at point it started.


I suppose it depends on sea conditions, and what position the throttle is in.


Silly.
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what is surprising is how the boat stayed upright i.e. not broched or pitch polled.
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