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Old 19 January 2006, 12:13   #1
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Just sea-trialled a Revenger 29 and Cougar R8 - ordered one of them

Yesterday I had the pleasure of sea-trialling a Revenger 29 and Cougar R8 in and around Southampton water. Conditions were pretty good with light to moderate winds and seastate to match. Would have preferred it to be a bit worse but that's the way it goes.

Revenger 29 - Phil Morris of Revenger was very helpful and honest about the pros and cons of engine and hull options. He even had a database of maximum speeds reached of 29 owners worldwide.

The only boat available was an non-stepped Yanmar 315HP inboard with Bravo 3 leg. Anyone who has experienced this combination will know it's far from ideal. It took at least 20 seconds to get up on the plane due to lag and the tenacious grip of the twin prop leg which was very disappointing. When it got up there it was fine even though the 44 knot speed we achieved was a few knots lower than expected due to a fouled hull. Stability in fast turns was pretty good although a friend of mine managed to get the back-end to slide around a bit.

The biggest dissapointment was aesthetics. Now this was a 3 year old boat and there have been some minor changes since, but it all felt a little bit dated to be honest. Still, big thanks to Phil Morris for taking us out.

Cougar R8 - Pete Currington at Cougar took us out in a single Honda 225HP Cougar R8, but not before we had a good look at the new 10m with built in loo and 2 x 225HP Hondas. Absolutely gorgeous, but a bit too big for what we want, for now

The first thing that strikes you about the Cougar R8 is it's a fine looking boat, but when you step onboard it just gets better. The hull mouldings, console and superb jockey seats are superbly well designed. Fire the Honda into life and the noise, or lack of it in this case is remarkable. You can hardly hear the thing and combined with the protection of the console we were easily able to have a conversation without shouting.

Up on the plane in a nats whisker and immediately the Cougar felt completely different to the Revenger. The ride was in a different league despite its 40cm smaller length. More cushioned, less slamming and the jockey seats were a dream. Flat out we managed around 55mph but Pete said there was a problem with the 3-year old engine which prevented it from hitting maximum revs. Even so I could have held it flat-out all day long the ride was so comfortable. I was amazed. There was a bit of instability in fastish turns but nothing serious and well worth the advantages in ride and speed that the stepped-hill gives.

So, I've ordered an R8. I accept the Honda could have performed better I fancy something bigger and the hull will take it. They reckon a Verado 275HP will push the R8 up to just under 70mph
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Old 19 January 2006, 12:16   #2
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I had a look at the Cougar - class boat - they have built some pretty good hulls over the years - do a search on Boatmad.

The 10m is stunning - what a boat!!!
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Old 19 January 2006, 12:18   #3
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They reckon a Verado 275HP will push the R8 up to just under 70mph
Bloody Hell!
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Yesterday I had the pleasure of sea-trialling a Revenger 29 and Cougar R8 in and around Southampton water. Conditions were pretty good with light to moderate winds and seastate to match. Would have preferred it to be a bit worse but that's the way it goes.


So, I've ordered an R8. I accept the Honda could have performed better I fancy something bigger and the hull will take it. They reckon a Verado 275HP will push the R8 up to just under 70mph
Was a great day Magnum. While Phil did a great job, the difference between the two boats was so incredibly marked. The finish and attention to detail on the Cougar is fantastic, even down to the wind deflector on the console and not to mentoin the way the jokey seats are fitted - the stainless steel grab rails go down through the seat and bolt to the deck.

As you said, the ride is superb and while the Honda 225 was not pulling to spec, we still made 50+ mph, but speaking with Steve Curtis this morning he reckons it should be pulling around the 60 mark. He confirmed that the Verado will touch 70 mph!! I'll have to plan the course now to go a bit further

I'm afraid yesterday rather spoilt me for the future, but I will say that the Cougar R8 does have one negative - it's not an ideal Level 2 training boat

I'll buy it from you when you upgrade to the RS10
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So, I've ordered an R8. I accept the Honda could have performed better I fancy something bigger and the hull will take it. They reckon a Verado 275HP will push the R8 up to just under 70mph
So you've handed over the deposit? Have you ever been in/driven a boat at 70mph?
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Old 19 January 2006, 13:14   #6
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Have you ever been in/driven a boat at 70mph?
Yes. Have you?
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There was a bit of instability in fastish turns but nothing serious and well worth the advantage
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Congrats on your choice Magnum. My boss bought one of the R8 ex. support RIBs from the Honda 4 stroke series. I have to walk past it all day long, just waiting for the chance of a ride .

Twin step hull and as I've heard it can be a little tail end happy in tight high speed turns. Should be exciting!
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wish i had a few more bob in me back pocket!

Never seen one but the r8 sounds like a superb boat and the verado does look the muts nuts.

Hope you have a lot of fun with it, take care
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I've been in a Cougar R8 and can confirm that they are absolutely brilliant.

Congratulations on an excellent choice.

It is a boat that I would like to own one day.

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Got to be honest I don't think I would go for the Verado though - just too heavy and complex - Etec 250 I would go for - unless you REALLY want another 25hp and then with the weight difference what are you gaining???

Unless of course Cougar happen to be doing good deals on the Verado???
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go for the verado x 2

lets face it you would not buy a aston without leather.
so put the best on
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Old 20 January 2006, 06:07   #13
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Round the island race

My folks live by St Catherines point and the powerboat race is impressive - 70 sounds pleasingly swift in a rib but what sort of speeds are those raceboats pulling?
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Old 20 January 2006, 08:22   #14
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Congratulations on your RIB purchase Magnum and many thanks for your excellent report on each boat .

It's great to hear others' opinions of different makes!

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Congratulations on your RIB purchase Magnum and many thanks for your excellent report on each boat .

It's great to hear others' opinions of different makes!

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Well said Jim
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Old 20 January 2006, 10:26   #16
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Looking forward to seeing some pictures of the Cougar Magnum, good luck with your new purchase.

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Magnum, when do you get the Cougar? (great racing history in that firm BTW)
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Anyway.....Magnum, when do you get the Cougar? (great racing history in that firm BTW)
Around 8 weeks time I think. Still not made the final decision regarding engine, but Verado 275 looking most likely.
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Around 8 weeks time I think. Still not made the final decision regarding engine, but Verado 275 looking most likely.
I bet they're happy about that! being Honda dealers n all!
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