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Old 09 June 2012, 03:56   #31
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There is a "friction" aka "stiffness" adjuster there somewhere. Stops kickback etc., and as it's hydraulic I reckon it may be set to "stiff".
Really? On a hydraulic system? Hydraulic steering as far as I know is naturally no feedback. I would suggest the OP disconnects the steering ram from the motor arm and tries to turn the motor by hand. This will determine whether it is the motor pivot that is seized or a problem with the helm or ram. Hydraulic should not be stiff, that's the whole purpose of it. Grease any nipples you can find too...
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Yes, really.
That's what happens when something doesn't work properly ie is broken, it doesn't do what it should. Hydraulic or not. The ram could be distorted, the pipes kinked, fluidways bunged up, washers rotten, fluid contaminated with air/water.
You can't say "that's not the problem because it's hydraulic.........", it's like saying "they can't be corrupt, they're the police". But you did say "SHOULD not be stiff", and that's the key.
And I did say that hydraulic is no feedback.
And you can have friction settings on a hydraulic system. Only that they are at the engine end or wheel end and usually not directly incorporated into the hydraulic system, although these exist as well.
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Welcome back mister p Looking forward to your posts on the L.R. threads.
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Old 09 June 2012, 09:26   #34
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Yes, really.
That's what happens when something doesn't work properly ie is broken, it doesn't do what it should. Hydraulic or not. The ram could be distorted, the pipes kinked, fluidways bunged up, washers rotten, fluid contaminated with air/water.
You can't say "that's not the problem because it's hydraulic.........", it's like saying "they can't be corrupt, they're the police". But you did say "SHOULD not be stiff", and that's the key.
And I did say that hydraulic is no feedback.
And you can have friction settings on a hydraulic system. Only that they are at the engine end or wheel end and usually not directly incorporated into the hydraulic system, although these exist as well.
Utter Bollix. There is no stiffness adjustment on a hydraulic steering system.
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Utter Bollix. There is no stiffness adjustment on a hydraulic steering system.
You could probably have a stiffness adjustment that is a restriction in the line or control valve (intentional or not).

A restriction between the helm and the actuator could make the steering feel stiff.
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You probably could however the comment that hydraulic steering systems have stiffness adjustments is just not true.
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Have a nose around by the swivel point of the OB and also by your wheel. A + or - usually is a tell-tale...
Does that help?
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Utter Bollix. There is no stiffness adjustment on a hydraulic steering system.
What? Are you telling me that there are no Pluses or Minuses if you have a nose around your swivel point?

I'm gutted!
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What? Are you telling me that there are no Pluses or Minuses if you have a nose around your swivel point?

I'm gutted!
That's all new to me, you learn something every day
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