Joy riders caught on camera on PWC attacking yacht owners

HUMBER P4VWL · 20 August 2010, 12:55

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11035363

Honestly, it should be like decades gone by, if people are being that antagonistic/unlawful you should be well within your right to pull out a flare gun and take a pop shot!!

C2 RIBS · 20 August 2010, 13:12

Easy find out where they launch from and re - arrange their tyres so they cannot get their little beasts home. Again this is labelled joy riding????

Not sure what power Harbour guys have and police but perhaps inpound their bikes would resolve the problem.

Poly · 20 August 2010, 13:16

Whilst the PWCs are obviously being eijits its not clear that they are doing it to intentionally antagonise the WAFI or that there actions were even obviously causing any particular distress to the WAFIs - although obviously the boat was being shaken about nothing about the crew's actions suggested there was a serious concern.

The language in the brief article is also a bit dramatic. "intentionally rammed" - the only yacht v's pwc collisions I've heard of this year resulted in serious injuries to the PWC driver. "Swamped" is probably also wrong - sprayed would be more likely.

HUMBER P4VWL · 20 August 2010, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polwart

Whilst the PWCs are obviously being eijits its not clear that they are doing it to intentionally antagonise the WAFI or that there actions were even obviously causing any particular distress to the WAFIs - although obviously the boat was being shaken about nothing about the crew's actions suggested there was a serious concern.

The language in the brief article is also a bit dramatic. "intentionally rammed" - the only yacht v's pwc collisions I've heard of this year resulted in serious injuries to the PWC driver. "Swamped" is probably also wrong - sprayed would be more likely.

I take your point, but "spray" me from within a boat hooks reach and I'll "touch" them.

It was reported as though they are stolen and dumped rather than users just being idiots.

jyasaki · 20 August 2010, 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polwart

"Swamped" is probably also wrong - sprayed would be more likely.

Enough spraying will result in swamping.

jky

Poly · 20 August 2010, 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyasaki

Enough spraying will result in swamping.

jky

Assuming they can spray it in faster than you can pump it out. With even the cheapest bilge pump delivering 300 gph - they'd be going some to beat it.

NautiSeacrets · 20 August 2010, 15:05

mmmm almost looks staged ..............?

The boat owner doesn't seem that worried!

Jizm · 20 August 2010, 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by NautiSeacrets

mmmm almost looks staged ..............?

The boat owner doesn't seem that worried!

I thought that...

willk · 20 August 2010, 16:49

Yeah, the WAFIs set it up 'cos they thought it might blacken the Good Reputation of PWC users...

BassBoy · 20 August 2010, 17:04

For anyone to 'excuse' this sort of behaviour is very sad.

This sort of thing, amongst other more 'serious' incidents, is the very reason that I refused to renew my PWC instructors certificate. I tried to keep an open mind, but have come to realise that the owners of these craft are largely beyond help. It would be a shame for most of the responsible owners, but I think they should be 'removed' from all but the most isolated un populated parts of the planet.

IRPCAS aside, this is clip shows quite simply, outrageous and dangerous idiocy. If that were my boat alongside the pontoon, I would not be able to help myself!

willk · 20 August 2010, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by BassBoy

but I think they should be 'removed' from all but the most isolated un populated parts of the planet.

Sorry mate, we've just banned the bu@@ers too!

Nos4r2 · 20 August 2010, 17:21

I think I'd be buying a paintball gun if I was boating in that area...

BassBoy · 20 August 2010, 17:24

Willk
Bravo! Didn't realise that you are that isolated!

Poly · 20 August 2010, 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by BassBoy

For anyone to 'excuse' this sort of behaviour is very sad.

I'm not "excusing" the behaviour, I'm pointing out that actually the yacht crew don't appear to be particularly concerned. The yacht is also not getting that bad a bashing (it would get far worse from the wake of a ship going past, or in strong winds).

Quote:

This sort of thing, amongst other more 'serious' incidents, is the very reason that I refused to renew my PWC instructors certificate.

I don't follow the logic. So because some guys, who have probably never done a PWC course are wreckless you thought that you would be improving things by not training those who do show an interest in informed or responsible use.

Quote:

I tried to keep an open mind, but have come to realise that the owners of these craft are largely beyond help. It would be a shame for most of the responsible owners, but I think they should be 'removed' from all but the most isolated un populated parts of the planet.

two contradictory stereotypes there.

Quote:

IRPCAS aside, this is clip shows quite simply, outrageous and dangerous idiocy.

which of the col regs do you think they were breaking?

Quote:

If that were my boat alongside the pontoon, I would not be able to help myself!

well that's actually kind of my (and other people's) point. At no point does it appear that the yacht crew are doing anything about it - which depending on your viewpoint suggests either it was staged (but might make a good training tool!) or that on the pontoon it actually didn't seem that bad.

Steve_B · 20 August 2010, 18:15

Or maybe they were not that confident in their own ability to "defend" themselves, and like lots of the population these days, try to ignore the bad behaviour in the hope that they will give up and move on.

Personally, the well aimed/held boat hook would have been my response

BassBoy · 20 August 2010, 18:20

Polwart

1- The person trying to scrub their waterline looks pretty perturbed to me!
When 'in port' you have an expectation that there will be minimal wash. When 'in port' in a gale, you expect something a bit more interesting! If moored near major shipping channels, you know what to expect! Have you been below when this sort of thing happens? On my own pontoons, an 'infant' was badly scalded as it's mum was making a hot drink when a different kind of plonker came past at similar speed! Did you see the person aloft repairing a mast head instrument? (no, because this time, he'd luckily come down before the prats arrived)

2- Yes, that's my decision for better or worse, and I'm not that proud of it. There comes a point when you just have to decide who is worth helping. All too often, said 'owners' want to do their 'competency course' because it's a requirement to use/launch their craft and NOT to learn anything of value beyond that.

3- Stereotypes. I know what they are, but I don't understand your point?

4- Rule 5 and 6.

5- Yes, it might have been staged. If you didn't think it looked 'that bad', try it yourself.

Mollers · 20 August 2010, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polwart

At no point does it appear that the yacht crew are doing anything about it - which depending on your viewpoint suggests either it was staged (but might make a good training tool!) or that on the pontoon it actually didn't seem that bad.

Or perhaps the PWC users were intimidating thugs and the WAFIs chose to stay calm rather than be provoked? Anyway, what could they've done? Bombarded them with yellow wellies?

BassBoy · 20 August 2010, 18:34

Polwart
Please tell us what a 'WAFI' is?

Downhilldai · 20 August 2010, 18:39

wind assisted fkin idiot

BassBoy · 20 August 2010, 18:45

Hilda
Thanks. It's good to know that I'm a WAFI AND a RIPAFI (Rigid Inflatable Petrol Assisted Fkin Idiot!) And not a PWCOTA (Personal Water Closet Owning Total AHole)