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Old 19 April 2016, 10:41   #11
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Fair point, but does that also include the storage side of it aswell.?
My pickup has a 70L plastic tank. I can park it in my shed. When I do so, am I storing 70L of fuel? I'd imagine that if your tanks are in or near the boat then you're good. If they're shoved under your bed then I can see how there might be issues
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My pickup has a 70L plastic tank. I can park it in my shed. When I do so, am I storing 70L of fuel? I'd imagine that if your tanks are in or near the boat then you're good. If they're shoved under your bed then I can see how there might be issues
I totally agree with you, and your reasoning. I just cannot see much difference between my boats 20 litre portable fuel tank, and my 20 litre jerry can. Apart from shape, they seem to be made from exactly the same material, have same 'CE ' markings, and are even the same colour......!
This bloody world has gone mad. H&S is dam crazy.
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I totally agree with you, and your reasoning. I just cannot see much difference between my boats 20 litre portable fuel tank, and my 20 litre jerry can. Apart from shape, they seem to be made from exactly the same material, have same 'CE ' markings, and are even the same colour......!

This bloody world has gone mad. H&S is dam crazy.

Yup sure has
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Old 19 April 2016, 14:37   #14
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When I got stopped from filling my two 25lt portable tanks at the local garage by a jobs worth two years ago I phoned the council they told me it was up to garage policy how much they let you have H&S (again) storage at home was 2-2.500 lt max.
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A mate has just come back from a H&S course ( he's a commercial marine engineer ), he's now not allowed at work when using cable ties to trim any surplus tie, potentially the trimmed plastic end could cause injury................

And there was me worrying about Ebola , Isis and the wife finding out how much I spend on the boat...........
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Old 19 April 2016, 17:20   #16
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Here's on once on a job looking for a culvert in the middle of a grass field said to the lads we don't need hi vis vest because of flies or a hard hat nothing to fall on our head client came where's your hi vis explained more risk of getting stung as they attract flies wasps etc ok we're is your hard hat no need not doing any work and nothing in the field his reply what if a bolt or piece of metal fell off an aircraft! Just maybe common sense will return one day.
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is that just the Jerry can poly or any can?. i know a garage can refuse to allow you to fill above five gallons under its own policy's if it wishes.
A garage can refuse anyone on any grounds.
Petroleum spirit licenses (what a garage has) seem by default to be for 5/10L cans.
The new rules came in under this: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2...0141637_en.pdf

It talks about suitable containers - but you need to read the details to see what that means. I use demountable tanks so haven't bothered to understand - and since the guy or gal at the forecourt won't know anyway it is probably pointless.
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A garage can refuse anyone on any grounds.
Petroleum spirit licenses (what a garage has) seem by default to be for 5/10L cans.
The new rules came in under this: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2...0141637_en.pdf

It talks about suitable containers - but you need to read the details to see what that means. I use demountable tanks so haven't bothered to understand - and since the guy or gal at the forecourt won't know anyway it is probably pointless.
Agree that's my expearence I just hide the cans now tesco seem OK especially in Oban
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If I have read that correctly, I, along with probably most people in the boating world, that have seperate fuel cans for their outboards, are being very naughty people........!?!?

It says a maxium of 10 litres in a plastic can......! Mine is 20 or 25 litres, can't remember which, and I have 2 of them, which get filled, transported and stored, on a regular basis. Oooops.
The legislation refers to "demountable fuel tanks" separately.

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You have a portable fuel tank on your boat, not a fuel can - a different puppy entirely. Try explaining that to the harridan at the Asda pump though...
ASDA is of course the answer. They are all automated self service pumps with no human beings in sight and therefore the ideal place!

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Fair point, but does that also include the storage side of it aswell.?
Yes the rules allow:

30L in suitable cans (20L metal, 10L plastic) OR a single demountable tank.
not in your living space (see the exact rules if you are worried!). Fuel in a tank connected to an internal combustion engine does not count.

without registering. You can store upto 275L by informing the authority (fire brigade?) IF it is stored in a building that is not part of a house, and you comply with various rules like having spills "kit".

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My pickup has a 70L plastic tank. I can park it in my shed. When I do so, am I storing 70L of fuel? I'd imagine that if your tanks are in or near the boat then you're good. If they're shoved under your bed then I can see how there might be issues
If you've got a stack of jerry cans in a garage that is part of your actual house building its far from ideal (and against the rules). Likely it will only come to light if you have a disgruntled neighbour who doesn't like you flushing the noisy O/Board OR very shortly before or after a big bang! In which case you may have other worries!

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I totally agree with you, and your reasoning. I just cannot see much difference between my boats 20 litre portable fuel tank, and my 20 litre jerry can. Apart from shape, they seem to be made from exactly the same material, have same 'CE ' markings, and are even the same colour......!
This bloody world has gone mad. H&S is dam crazy.
There isn't, the new rules actually go a long way to addressing the confusion that existed from various old rules (some of which go back to 1929 - so are not "new H&S" gone mad!).
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