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Old 14 September 2004, 18:29   #31
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RB: Last year i was in Glenuig hoping, but failing to do Bo Fascadale - it's supposed to be fantastic! Must get up again for another go. Still have fond memories of a few years before, doing the Falls of Laura
Never done the Falls of Lora, even though it is only 4 miles away from my house. Bo Fascadale is very good but there is even better if you know where to look.
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Old 15 September 2004, 04:24   #32
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I have suggested to loads of 'Warm Water' divers to give Scotland a try if nowhere else in the UK, they were all impressed. The visibility was great and there are so many starfish, scollops (yummy), dolphins, basking sharks, seals etc. The hospitality is also about the warmest I have ever had on a dive trip.

One of the reasons we got a rib was the diving facility it offers. Perhaps a coordinated dive trip would be good to organise. Scapa is somewhere I believe is best with local knowledge as there are so many wrecks, we would really be up for a trip with 4 other divers.

My missus tells me she read about a drift dive at Correyvreken, she says I should try it sometime ! Seriously, I read it is a stretch of water that even the Navy say is unnavigable, perhaps someone has had a look at it, is it true it can be heard from 10 miles away ?

I must agree, quarries in Wales and Stoney etc do not offer much other than a good place to refresh diving skills, I remeber about 3000 divers used Stoney over a bank holiday weekend once ! It was heaving.

I hope the diving threads keep going, RIBs seem essential pieces of kit for so many divers, seems relevant to have some banter here, more about the boating than the diving though, please.
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Old 15 September 2004, 07:53   #33
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Another diver here - I've been mainly using my RIB as 'transport' only so far - one day I really must make time to go out and have a proper play.

Anyhow, I thought I'd look for shared experiences on this one; seems to link RIBs and diving just nicely:

After a lot of messing with a 15kg shot - which always ended up bouncing around the bottom and often off the wreck etc - I've got myself sorted with a 25kg beastie.

We also use 12mm shotline ropes for something nice and meaty to hang onto.

Has anyone come across any mechanical solution which can help lift the shot? The type I'm thinking of I think involve some form of RIB towing / sea drag soultion. Where from? DIY? Do they work?

I've seen winches on the front of consoles, but I suspect these are not suited to thicker rope (and we're currently in the trimix range so it could be up to 70m worth). And the current solution is the underwater lifting bag - but that eats into your valuable bottom time, not to mention gas.

I keep recommending this forum by the way to divers on other diving-specific forums, so it only seems fair to give the Yorkshire Divers forum a plug here - I'll let you do your own googling.
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Old 15 September 2004, 08:03   #34
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Another diver here - I've been mainly using my RIB as 'transport' only so far - one day I really must make time to go out and have a proper play.

Anyhow, I thought I'd look for shared experiences on this one; seems to link RIBs and diving just nicely:

After a lot of messing with a 15kg shot - which always ended up bouncing around the bottom and often off the wreck etc - I've got myself sorted with a 25kg beastie.

We also use 12mm shotline ropes for something nice and meaty to hang onto.

Has anyone come across any mechanical solution which can help lift the shot? The type I'm thinking of I think involve some form of RIB towing / sea drag soultion. Where from? DIY? Do they work?

I've seen winches on the front of consoles, but I suspect these are not suited to thicker rope (and we're currently in the trimix range so it could be up to 70m worth). And the current solution is the underwater lifting bag - but that eats into your valuable bottom time, not to mention gas.

I keep recommending this forum by the way to divers on other diving-specific forums, so it only seems fair to give the Yorkshire Divers forum a plug here - I'll let you do your own googling.
That has to be the heaviest shot around!
Do you come back up vier the shot or use delayed SMB?
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Old 15 September 2004, 08:17   #35
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Getting into mixed gases - with their longer diving times - has resulted in us switching from a shot-line ascent to a DSMB ascent. Plus we're now less reluctant to get involved in the hauling up operation due to the increased risk of getting bent.

25 kg is actually what the BSAC recommend. And as I said, I've had my 15kg old one bounce away too many times not to try something different.

A Grapnel might be a better solution? but not exactly RIB friendly.
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Has anyone come across any mechanical solution which can help lift the shot? The type I'm thinking of I think involve some form of RIB towing / sea drag soultion. Where from? DIY? Do they work
send a line downthe shot with a nice big heavy shackle attached then motor ahead the weighted line will pull up the shotline then all you gotta do is pull it in , this is how sailing clubs retrieve thier inflateable racing marks though i suppose it depends how deep the shot is and how time consuming it will be
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Getting into mixed gases - with their longer diving times - has resulted in us switching from a shot-line ascent to a DSMB ascent. Plus we're now less reluctant to get involved in the hauling up operation due to the increased risk of getting bent.

25 kg is actually what the BSAC recommend. And as I said, I've had my 15kg old one bounce away too many times not to try something different.

A Grapnel might be a better solution? but not exactly RIB friendly.
Sound like someone is pulling them selves down the line!
How about using a folding grapnel anchor, last one down folds it up for easy retrieval!
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How about using a folding grapnel anchor, last one down folds it up for easy retrieval!
I was about to say that
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shot retrieval

One option for hauling it up is to set up a largish buoy with a ring (meatal) beneath, pass the shot rope through this this attach to your D-rings/tow eyes. Check shot isnt fouled! very important! then gun the throttle into wind/tide.

Hey presto! shot is lifted you then get some tame helpers to pull in the line before it sinks back again. Its easy to see that its lifted as the buoy is dragged along a little.

Now for this little labour saving beauty you surely get a green blob!!?
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One option for hauling it up is to set up a largish buoy with a ring (meatal) beneath, pass the shot rope through this this attach to your D-rings/tow eyes. Check shot isnt fouled! very important! then gun the throttle into wind/tide.

Hey presto! shot is lifted you then get some tame helpers to pull in the line before it sinks back again. Its easy to see that its lifted as the buoy is dragged along a little.

Now for this little labour saving beauty you surely get a green blob!!?
Yes well known principle but we are talking about 25Kg to be lifted along with say 50 M of line! You are going to kneed a very large buoy. Also its going to sink back down very quickly!
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