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Old 03 January 2013, 11:43   #61
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The officer posted his idea on Twatter - says it all
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Old 03 January 2013, 19:32   #62
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Alternatively Dial 112 the other emergency number at least the operator knows your location if you call from a mobile
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The 50p for 999 is obviously never going to happen. The thinking (such as it is) behind the comment will have been the sheer volume of hoax calls that the Emergency Services get. I had a convo with a CG officer recently and I was startled to learn that they can receive hundreds, if not thousands of hoax calls from the same individual over a few days or weeks! Imagine the drain on resources and moral. The police try to catch those responsible but you can also imagine how difficult that can be.

AFAIK, 112 and 999 calls are free from all phones, incl. mobiles without SIM cards and this is unlikely to change. So yiz can relax...

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Alternatively Dial 112 the other emergency number at least the operator knows your location if you call from a mobile
Urban myth. Both 999 and 112 provide the same degree of "location" of your mobile. Which may be very little.

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And to cap it all I heard on Radio 2 this morning that someone has come up with the brilliant idea of making 999 a premium rate number! What happens if you don't have any money handy or a card or whatever at a phone box? what about the number of people that are put off genuine emergencies - I could go on!
I completely agree. I don;t think the person making the suggestion was in a position likely to have much direct influence but it does have the benefit of raising the 'issue' in the media and getting people talking about it. Presumably the person suggesting it hasn't considered how many of the genuine 999 calls he gets come from mobiles with no credit - or mobiles used free of charge on 'competitive' networks.

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I had a convo with a CG officer recently and I was startled to learn that they can receive hundreds, if not thousands of hoax calls from the same individual over a few days or weeks! Imagine the drain on resources and moral.
The big issue as I understand it (certainly for the police and ambulance service) is not hoax calls but calls which are not genuine emergencies. "I've locked myself out", "I've no money to get home", "I've cut my finger", "I've got tooth ache", as well as things which are legitimate calls to the police but aren't genuine 999 calls e.g. "my car has been vandalised", "someone has been consistently abusive to me on internet social media!" etc etc... down south they have introduced a non-emergency number so people don't have to look up the phone book to find their local police station. I don't know why we haven't followed suit in Scotland - a lot of people I speak to don't even know their own phone number never mind where their local police station is!

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With genuine hoaxes maybe, but for inappropriate use the caller is usually trying to contact the police. Whether it would be a good idea to try to prosecute any of the 'stupid' rather than hoax calls is interesting - as imagine if 'that risk' puts off someone calling in something that seems trivial and as a result someone dies. Education probably better than legislation?
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I used the term "hoax" as a catch-all. The biggest problem the CG were having was more malicious calls, they didn't expand on the details, but I understood that it was a small number of individuals making repeated calls about non-genuine issues. I have no experience of the other emergency services.

The rozzers have had some success locating a couple of callers who were serious offenders, but the feeling is that the courts won't do much to them

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I completely agree. I don;t think the person making the suggestion was in a position likely to have much direct influence
It turns out he was "only" a sergeant (apologies to any sergeants reading this!)

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Isn't that like the Police Union?
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I hope the OP is proud of this stream of BS. I would have expected better of him.
Well, the OP is not responsible for where the thread goes, and I find there to be very little "BS" here if any at all other than possibly that which I have just quoted.

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Isn't that like the Police Union?
Aye,the the Scottish chapter of the upstanding moral beacons that tried to stitch up Andrew Lansley.

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