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Old 06 January 2013, 11:29   #11
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How do I tell if they are "gemini" tubes
At least one of them will be deflated
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Old 06 January 2013, 12:30   #12
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Stitching on the edges of the strake and fitted with inner tubes, the bow section will might have a Zip on it!
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Old 06 January 2013, 12:41   #13
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Looks like they're Gemini then!

My conclusion from the replies is that this decision is a "no Brainer"

Helps to have these views, thank you.
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Those are definitely Gemini tubes (which probably doesn't mean anything to you, but if you search on here you'll find much information on them - they are shocking quality (I bought a RIB with them once and it was a prime example of s**t they are), so on that basis assume it needs a retube. (The photo even shows one side deflated so they probably don't even hold air!). The £2500 is therefore for the engine, a trailer and a bare hull. It'll probably cost you around £3k to get retubed, so think some more before purchasing. You might be lucky and get a bit of use out of it before the tubes fail, but it's a case of when rather than if. As has been said, they are outting skins with inflatable inners. The outer bits seemed to be made in a very similar way to bouncy castles. I'm normally very optimistic when it comes to the state of boats (I buy and sell them on a daily basis) but this really is one I would steer clear of, especially if it's your first and you don't really know what you're looking at.

If you've got £2500 to spend I should keep your eye on the market and buy elsewhere - there are plenty of bargains out there at the moment. Having said all of that, you could buy this, keep your eye out for a cheap hull with decent tubes (something like a Searider, Ribcraft 4.8, Humber etc) and swap everything over and ditch the original hull.
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Those are definitely Gemini tubes (which probably doesn't mean anything to you, but if you search on here you'll find much information on them - they are shocking quality (I bought a RIB with them once and it was a prime example of s**t they are), so on that basis assume it needs a retube. (The photo even shows one side deflated so they probably don't even hold air!). The £2500 is therefore for the engine, a trailer and a bare hull. It'll probably cost you around £3k to get retubed, so think some more before purchasing. You might be lucky and get a bit of use out of it before the tubes fail, but it's a case of when rather than if. As has been said, they are outting skins with inflatable inners. The outer bits seemed to be made in a very similar way to bouncy castles. I'm normally very optimistic when it comes to the state of boats (I buy and sell them on a daily basis) but this really is one I would steer clear of, especially if it's your first and you don't really know what you're looking at.

If you've got £2500 to spend I should keep your eye on the market and buy elsewhere - there are plenty of bargain out there at the moment.
As I said, assuming it passes quality checks on inspection. If the Tubes are shot walk, if they have life talk - Im Looking at it as boat worth £900, Trailer worth £600 and motor £2,000, so anything around £2,500 is a good price in my book

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As I said, assuming it passes quality checks on inspection. If the Tubes are shot walk, if they have life talk - Im Looking at it as boat worth £900, Trailer worth £600 and motor £2,000, so anything around £2,500 is a good price in my book

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I'd take a bet on it being a Tornado 5.1 or 5.3, shallow V hull so should go alright with 50hp just not so good in a big sea.
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Copy of ring hull gemini tubes
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If you don't want it ill have it
Now..... THAAAT!!.. IS the ULTIMATE ENDORSEMENT!!
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Copy of ring hull gemini tubes
Second that.... Didn't notice the other pictures at first.

Probably built by Jim Robinson
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