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Old 20 April 2017, 23:01   #1
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inside console fuel tank-top mount?

getting prepared for my new boat, and after giving up ordering underdeck fuel tank, I am thinking of using fuel tank inside console (some pictures attached for console), i have good access from front seat on the console and also the console seems to open from the middle. console will come unfixed.

I need a fuel tank of 50 liters or 60 max, won't need bigger size.

my question is: would top side fuel tank such as moeller red tanks is my choice?
International Use Only | Moeller Marine

or maybe keep one or 2 regular portable tanks inside console? or possibly use permanent fuel tanks?
Permanent Fuel Tanks | Moeller Marine

Assuming top side would be a the recommendatio:
1. should tank be secured from movement inside console? how?

2. would it be ok to access tank directly and fill with gas through console door or should i use fuel fill hose as an extension?

3.Will top mount tanks be suitable be used outside console in open space? (very hot sun here in my area)

4. do top side tanks come as complete set or need other things to order?

Will appreciate your help here..
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Old 21 April 2017, 08:42   #2
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to give you opinion i have a question for you ; how is your layout with your bench on your deck ?
if you dont wanna fight with the installation of tank deckfill, hoses, breather, fueltank gauge and sender vs topside tanks are so usefull
have a look at scepter topside tank with a capacity of 45 lt. moller topside tanks are also simmilar.
ideas depend on your deck layout and space
topside tanks are safe to be used under sun on deck,
usa made tank certificated for epa regulation and they can handle 25 psi fuel pressure in the tank
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Old 21 April 2017, 11:13   #3
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to give you opinion i have a question for you ; how is your layout with your bench on your deck ?
if you dont wanna fight with the installation of tank deckfill, hoses, breather, fueltank gauge and sender vs topside tanks are so usefull
have a look at scepter topside tank with a capacity of 45 lt. moller topside tanks are also simmilar.
ideas depend on your deck layout and space
topside tanks are safe to be used under sun on deck,
usa made tank certificated for epa regulation and they can handle 25 psi fuel pressure in the tank
hi northstar, thanks for dropping by,

boat have cable outlet preparation (see pictures near transom) coming out of hatch and should get into console. i am getting my boat with console, T-top and seat not mounted, i will mount them,but see pictures for boat and equipment on it-shoud be similar to this more or less.
I will have space to put tank outside but prefer to use console and keep space for other things. either way, i am looking for method to secure the tank to ground, dont know how with these tanks if other than ratchets..

I prefer as less complicated tank as possible-there fore as you said no fighting with permanent fuel tank with all gauges etc etc..

question is whether i should fuel directly to the tank?

another consideration is putting a separation between tank and electricity to prevent risk of explosion, but that is another issue.

hope i answered your question..looking forward to your reply

p.s. seen scepter tanks, found 2 of them, one should be possible to fit in console (the low profile tank):
Scepter Rectangular Portable Fuel Tank 12 Gal/45L (Low Profile) w/Gauge 08669 | eBay

but could it be they are less strong than Moeller topside tanks? in pictures they seem so
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Old 21 April 2017, 12:04   #4
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i am using scepter 45 lt they are strong enough. they all handle the hard rules of epa regulation. keep kalm
what is your console inner diamension ? if possible you can place it under console and have a access to fill it via console front hatch.
you only have to mount to ventilation grilles on the sides off the console thats all !
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i am using scepter 45 lt they are strong enough. they all handle the hard rules of epa regulation. keep kalm
what is your console inner diamension ? if possible you can place it under console and have a access to fill it via console front hatch.
you only have to mount to ventilation grilles on the sides off the console thats all !
inner dimensions are as follow (see also pictures-last one is not door hatch but actually console half part seperated)
length 80 cm=31.5 inch
width 55cm=21.6 inch
height (below front door hatch) 33.5 cm=13.2 inch
low profile scepter would probably fit easily:
Scepter Rectangular Portable Fuel Tank 12 Gal/45L (Low Profile) w/Gauge 08669 | eBay

what did you mean about ventilation grillers?

what would be the method for securing the gas tank not to move?
appreciate your help
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inner dimensions are as follow (see also pictures-last one is not door hatch but actually console half part seperated)
length 80 cm=31.5 inch
width 55cm=21.6 inch
height (below front door hatch) 33.5 cm=13.2 inch
low profile scepter would probably fit easily:
Scepter Rectangular Portable Fuel Tank 12 Gal/45L (Low Profile) w/Gauge 08669 | eBay

what did you mean about ventilation grillers?

what would be the method for securing the gas tank not to move?
appreciate your help
sameh
18 gallon moeller can be placed here.

18 Gallon Topside Fuel Tank |

you can secure the tank with tank hold down kit Battery Box/Topside Fuel Tank Hold Down Kit (SS Hold Down Brackets) |

for ventilation you have to install grilles
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18 gallon moeller can be placed here.

18 Gallon Topside Fuel Tank |

you can secure the tank with tank hold down kit Battery Box/Topside Fuel Tank Hold Down Kit (SS Hold Down Brackets) |

for ventilation you have to install grilles

many thanks
now it is clear to me

moeller you mentioned is on the height limit..probably exceeding it so i better compromise for smaller package. anyway, i dont need that size. up tp 50 is best. 40 is ok as well.

grillers should be located near fuel tank? at its ventilation height or higher?

thanks again
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seems that these 12 gallons can also fit my seat, which is safer.

Looking at 2 tanks where difference is one has 2 caps other one has 3. Anybody knows what is this cap in the middle for in the 3 cap model?
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Moeller Marine 630013LP 12 Gallon LPT12 Portable Fuel Tank

Moeller Marine 630012LP 12 Gallon PBW12 Portable Fuel Tank New Tempo | eBay
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Eventually i cancelled order of moeller on ebay due and got locally this 42 liter tank. Italian girm named CANsb.
If filling through regular cap i should probably close the 2 breathers i suppose?
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Eventually i cancelled order of moeller on ebay due and got locally this 42 liter tank. Italian girm named CANsb.
If filling through regular cap i should probably close the 2 breathers i suppose?
yeap you should
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