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Old 12 February 2017, 18:08   #11
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Exactly my thoughts for hand held, rockets are ok but short lived I have heard they will ignor the odd flare as there's so many hoxes so at least three needed with what 9-12 min burn time.
PLB,DSC, laser flare, strobe & mirror for sun light for me
I agree with Willk - the CG won't ignore it.
BUT...
If you only have one then (a) public might dismiss it (not sure what they saw (b) the report will be ... Erm it was over 'there' roughly. Don't expect two people to have taken bearings on it!

BUT...
On that basis I suspect you need probably at least a dozen! Released at 3minute intervals. Enough to get someone making a phone call and then time to get assets looking in the right direction.

I await the day someone in recent years tells me about a rescue induced by a flare. And more so, one where there was a working VHF and PLB on board when the boat set off.
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Old 12 February 2017, 18:21   #12
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As they are a "requirement" but vhf is not a requirement I could argue or just pay £50 for some flares and hope I never need to use them (they can cause horrible injury even when used correctly!) effectiveness of laser flares in the day does concern me a bit.

I would much rather use the vhf dsc than launch a flare!
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Old 13 February 2017, 12:16   #13
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I agree with Willk - the CG won't ignore it.
BUT...
If you only have one then (a) public might dismiss it (not sure what they saw (b) the report will be ... Erm it was over 'there' roughly. Don't expect two people to have taken bearings on it!

BUT...
On that basis I suspect you need probably at least a dozen! Released at 3minute intervals. Enough to get someone making a phone call and then time to get assets looking in the right direction.

I await the day someone in recent years tells me about a rescue induced by a flare. And more so, one where there was a working VHF and PLB on board when the boat set off.
for the life of me i carnt think where i read/heard it or weather it was an opinion but it stuck in my mind that, what if you only had time to deploy one flare which then got me to thinking as shiny has said in his first parragrafe did someone see anything, where etc so it propmted me to by a PLB most of my boating is in remote areas in scotland one flare or even three might not raise any attention.anyway not going to bother me now not going to carry them bonfire night in a 3.6m sib no thanks all in my opinion.
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Old 13 February 2017, 14:25   #14
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i had an RNLI check on my ship and equipment recently and he was less than impressed with my motley collection of out of date pyro flares so iv just ordered an led one I also have a plb so touch wood ill be ok if I need to use either (tbh iv never been comfortable with the idea of pyro,s in an inflatable boat)
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Old 13 February 2017, 17:40   #15
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We ran a multi agency exercise a few years ago in Weymouth bay, a single para and a smoke were let off.

Dozens of calls in the first two minutes were recorded by the local MRSC!

You'll be surprised how many people will see them and call.
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We ran a multi agency exercise a few years ago in Weymouth bay, a single para and a smoke were let off.

Dozens of calls in the first two minutes were recorded by the local MRSC!

You'll be surprised how many people will see them and call.
I would love to know how well this would work on the west coast of Scotland
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I would love to know how well this would work on the west coast of Scotland


Not well at a guess. Add the islands into the mix & I wouldn't like to think I was relying solely on fireworks to call the cavalry.
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Not well at a guess. Add the islands into the mix & I wouldn't like to think I was relying solely on fireworks to call the cavalry.
so whats the best options plb and an led flare
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so whats the best options plb and an led flare


Depends, if all you want is rescuing if it hits the fan:-
PLB
Dsc vhf
Led flare.

Personally I'd rank vhf above PLB IF I had to choose. If budget isn't a consideration, all 3.
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Well as one who does all his cruising in the West I have all three. I also find surprisingly so that a shout first usually brings s response if all you need is assistance. But as Pikey says if your in deep dodo then PLB.
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