Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 29 August 2004, 10:03   #1
Member
 
qcamel's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
Boat name: Happy Hours
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300 Verado
MMSI: 235040122
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 476
If you had 35,000

And a desire to use a RIB to lap the UK, what would you buy? Would prefer to leave the boat in the water for 9 months of the year and the budget needs to include electronics.. Thoughts would be much appreciated..

Ollie
__________________

__________________
qcamel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 August 2004, 11:37   #2
Member
 
Country: Canada
Town: Newfoundland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 2,097
If I had 35k to spend on a RIB I'd be a happy man!

No question. Scorpion 7.5, 8.1 or 8.5m. Would probably get you new petrol engined 7.5m with electronics and poss. a trailer. Either that or if you are lucky and find one a used one with inboard diesel.

I've been around Britain on a Scorpion and its the only way to travel!

HTH, Alan
__________________

__________________
Alan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 August 2004, 13:33   #3
Member
 
qcamel's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
Boat name: Happy Hours
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300 Verado
MMSI: 235040122
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 476
Spec wise I have been thinking the diesels make sense for reliability and running costs but never used one in a RIB so unsure as to their comparable performance. What seating/deck layout would you look at? I am planning on doing the trip with a two man crew but will obviously use the boat for more familly biased fun with skii's etc at other times so will need the boat to feel refined as well as functional. Do owners ever keep their boats in the water throughout the summer season? I have never seen a rib anti fouled, does it happen?

Sorry to ask so many questions but I am trying to gain as much independent advice as possible before pouring my savings into another boat....

Ollie
__________________
qcamel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 August 2004, 13:43   #4
Member
 
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,339
Send a message via MSN to Manos Send a message via Yahoo to Manos Send a message via Skype™ to Manos
SCORPION simply the BEST!
Manos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 August 2004, 14:05   #5
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
Why not a Revenger? Lapping Britain seems to be their speciality!!!
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 August 2004, 16:56   #6
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Bradford on Avon
Boat name: tbc
Make: Sunseeker (AshleyD)
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2 x coal burners
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 461
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Why not a Revenger? Lapping Britain seems to be their speciality!!!
If you do, make sure it is set up properly. This diesel one came with us on a recent trip from Dartmouth to Plymouth & was flying & slamming over relatively small waves. Oh, & all the crew complained about how uncomfortable the seats were.

The Scorpion was travelling in comfort over the the top of the waves at about 30knts, but the Revenger had to slow down to about 20knts because it couldn't ride over them without slamming. Not ideal for a lap of Britain.

I'm sure there are plenty of very capable ribs on the market, but IMHO I would recommend a Scorpion. They are set up properly "out of the box", are well built & have very comfortable seating for long distance work.

Regards.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	mini-DSC_0022.JPG
Views:	251
Size:	39.6 KB
ID:	7759  
__________________
I miss the sound of an Etec in the morning
Brambles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 August 2004, 18:37   #7
Member
 
Country: Canada
Town: Newfoundland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 2,097
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Why not a Revenger? Lapping Britain seems to be their speciality!!!
Well I have ridden in a 27ft Revenger and it was the most uncomfortable RIB ride of my life. (Mind you the driver only knew two speeds. Stop and flat out!)

I don't like the straight tubes of the Revenger I prefer the sheer of the Scorpion. I also reckon that more Scorpions have circumnavigated UK straight out of the box than Revengers! For example Brian had Cyanide for around a month or so before we went round Britain in RB4.

Ollie, I'd go for a fairly conventional wide cruising console and jockey seat layout with possibly a rear bench. Best layout for family cruising and serious passage making anyway. (Unless your budget runs to Stidd mission seats! )

Lots of folk keep their RIBS in the water throughout. It helps if the tubes are out of the water at rest as this obviously reduces fouling. (Some RIBS have the tubes in the water at rest - greater stability for diving for example, some have them clear - better performance.) No reason why you cant antifoul a RIB like a hardboat.

Diesel performance is fine with the larger engines. For long distance cruising you want relaxed cruising at 35kts with power in reserve as when conditions permit you want to travel faster to keep the average speed up. Yanmars are popular engines but do a search for "Bravo 3" legs and the problems mating the two together. Outdrive legs get expensive to replace! Diesel is obviously more available and cheaper than petrol but you can go round britain in a petrol boat with a little thought in the route planning!

Oh yes and there is no such thing as independent advice on here I'm afraid as we all have our own opinions/beliefs/hang ups!!

Alan
__________________
Alan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 August 2004, 18:48   #8
Member
 
Richard B's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
Quote:
Originally Posted by qcamel
I have been thinking the diesels make sense for reliability and running costs but never used one in a RIB so unsure as to their comparable performance.
As far as a round Britain trip is concerned, diesel will win in terms of the three A's... Availability, Availability and Availability. Oh, and safety as well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by qcamel
What seating/deck layout would you look at? I am planning on doing the trip with a two man crew
At least a console with good shelter from the weather, then add good jockey seats (if you're happy with hours on end on them) or something more exotic if your budget allows.
Quote:
Originally Posted by qcamel
Do owners ever keep their boats in the water throughout the summer season? I have never seen a rib anti fouled, does it happen?
Sure does. A friend has just anti-fouled his Scorpion for year-long marina storage... International do a suitable product for fast planing craft.


Quote:
Originally Posted by qcamel
I am trying to gain as much independent advice as possible before pouring my savings into another boat...
No substitute for getting out and trying as many RIBs as possible. You are most welcome to come and try ours whenever you like but get out on others as well! As far as your savings are concerned, just put them into a Scorpion - slowest depreciation of any RIB
Richard B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 August 2004, 18:51   #9
Member
 
Richard B's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Why not a Revenger?
The ancient Revenger hull can't hold a candle to the David Marsh designed Scorpion hull. IMHO, of course!
Richard B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 August 2004, 03:43   #10
Member
 
qcamel's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
Boat name: Happy Hours
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300 Verado
MMSI: 235040122
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 476
Thanks for all the advice guys. I think I will visit the Southhampton boat show and talk further with the guys from Scorpian. I will keep you updated on progress...

Ollie
__________________

__________________
qcamel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 20:03.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.