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Old 10 October 2008, 19:00   #41
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Yep good piece of kit!!

I'd be much happier for the kids, wife, guests to use the boat hook for a lot of tasks fending off, catching mooring bouys, and in a MOB (safer than having loose ropes in the water etc, etc,

Its not often i stuff a landing up (not that i'm admitting to anyway )but allways had a member of the crew up front with boat hook in hand just incase as fingers and limbs between to hard places hurts lol
Good point about the MOB - when I have done safety boat cover for a few races my crew have often used the boathook - it is a lot easier and safer when you get close - I can stick the engine in neutral and not worry about props and legs!!!
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Old 10 October 2008, 19:11   #42
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Could argue that the otherway - in a swell and notice at the last min there is a rusty nail sticking out etc
OK fair comment and I can see its that last minute panic when someone puts a hand out, and blood really would clash horibly with cod's tube colour!
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Lessons learned
- Driving a rib all day is tiring, probably more so than most people realise
- Should have stopped for coffee & rest before driving home (my reactions were definitely slower than normal).
- Anyone who has never tried an emergency stop with their trailer should do so (somewhere safe). Even if you don't skid the effect on stopping distance even with a small trailer is surprising.
Very good points sir!

Another one I learned is comparable to Codprawns boathook one-never assume that a newbie to boats knows what you're on about-even if it's really basic stuff. It's caught me out on a few occasions-having grown up on yachts most stuff is second nature to me so no 'benchmark of ignorance' to compare it to. A newbie isn't going to understand about springs,painters, warps, sheets and lines all being ropes for a start... (saying that, I can''t remember a lot of yachting stuff anymore as I haven't used any of it for quite a long time...)
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My first lesson was........ never assume that you know the sea!

February 93:

I was a Rib test driver for Mike Armitage the owner of Northern Diver, he also made Osprey Ribs, we had a demo weekend after the London boat show in Whitby in Feb 93. 3 boats 3 drivers plus 1 sales/technical.

I briefed the drivers to stay inside the breakwater due to seas almost identical to that in the MAIB report..... low and behold one of the boat builders / helmsman thought he knew better and to prove the product ventured outside in a Viper 5.25...... Stupidly i went after him to get him back in, I was in the 5.75 - got alongside him and shouted with a lot of expletives to get back in... he then powered up in the trough we were in and aimed for the entrance, just as the bloody wave behind me lifted me up from the starboard qtr and crested into the bow of the boat - it sounded like thunder and before i knew anything i was in the water...

This was now a real "oh sh$t" situation - i was in the water in a 5 mtr swell to the south east side of the entrance to Whitby harbour in Feb and I knew I was going to die.... my mum died in 85 and so i talked alot to her whilst drifitng towards the rocks, feeling very helpless..and getting cold, even tho i was wearing a 5mm drysuit and impact vest, i remember shouting help a few times... but then it started to go quiet..... the waves cresting over me and sending me under in a washing machine like scenario was the most frightening thing in the world i have ever experienced, and the worse bit was as i was getting closer to the beach and getting driven under was hitting the bottom and praying i didnt get caught or trapped...

23 minutes after going in the water the D class crew did an amazing scoop up of me whilst underway and got me back alive with the ALB just outside the entrance as i was too shallow by the time they got out.....

I learnt a lot of lessons that day and owe my life to the RNLI and Northern Diver whose drysuit i was wearing, and without which I would have been dead 12 minutes before they got to me.... the boat was utterly destroyed... a million orange pieces on the rocks...

Stay safe, stay warm, stay upright!!
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April 2001

Lovely spring weekend - calm winds, based in Poole - Cowes anyone?????? Hell yeah!! eager to start the season as we meant to go on... 3 ribs blatt down to Cowes for the afternoon of beer and there was a photo i wanted to pick up from Beken.... perfect non eventful run down.... 5pm lets head back.......coming past Newtown Creek wife wants a pee - sooooo frustrating being as we had only left Cowes not 10 minutes earlier... however beer would have been the culprit....so we all dive into Yarmouth....anyone fancy a beer here then a night passage back?? quick beer but others wanted to be back before dark.... no probs..

Get back to boats mine wont start stbd engine - the twin 200 yammy's had never failed in almost 3 years......mmmmm confused...!! Dont worry chaps you shoot back and we will limp back on 1 and sort it out in poole we could make 10/12 knots so only a couple of hours!!!

Just getting dark as we are passing christchurch ledge.........Lurch!!!!!! oh bugger!! what now? - Lobster Pot line wrapped around Port prop - it had the tiniest black buoy on its line and with it just about dark, it had my name on it!!!

No probs - just get the blade out, take my strides off - stand on the cav plate of the stbd and cut it away

NO BLADE..........! took it off the boat the week before for home job... DONKEY!!!!!

Anyway - Wife started getting cold - we were stuck and after pleading managed to get mate back out with correct kit to free ourselves...!! got back into poole just after 22:30

What did i learn.............!! Never leave the berth without a knife, never assume your ever going to be warm enough, and never assume girly's are going to be warm enough - oh and take ear defenders for the constant whining you get thereafter!!!! :-)
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Old 11 October 2008, 11:49   #45
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My first lesson was........ never assume that you know the sea!
To quote a friend '' Assumption, the Mother of all FcUk ups....''



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i was wearing a 5mm drysuit and impact vest,!
I'm sure you would now advise all boaters to wear something more suitable than an impact jacket. Yes i'm am very aware of there purpose but in those conditions???? Bugs me how many boaters think they are suitable for allround use...





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I learnt a lot of lessons that day and owe my life to the RNLI and Northern Diver whose drysuit i was wearing, and without which I would have been dead 12 minutes before they got to me.... the boat was utterly destroyed... a million orange pieces on the rocks...

Stay safe, stay warm, stay upright!!

A VHF call to the other boat instead of putting yourself into danger is surely another lesson you learn't



Brave post Nickster, i hope that there is something learnt by other boaters that might prevent similar situations.
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They were demo ribs and we didnt have radios in them - re the assumption - guess you watched Under Siege 2 last night as well then.............!!! lol
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2 Issues I've learnt : Put meters of chain accordingly to your anchor setup, let sufficient rope betwen anchor and boat, specially at low tides. Watch out for plastic bags, kelp, newspapers on water that might block your water intakes, specially if your engine has not a overheat alarm as in small portable engines.

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Old 11 October 2008, 16:40   #48
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They were demo ribs and we didnt have radios in them

Another lesson learnt then....


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re the assumption - guess you watched Under Siege 2 last night as well then.............!!! lol
Damm, I allways gave my friend credit for that quote, didn't realise he had lifted it from a film.... allways learning
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No wonder Nikster went cold when I posted about "Last Call" sinking at Whitby.

our harbour is very dangerous as well - even in normal conditions. That is why I get so annoyed at our local council's attempts to get rid of the JetSkis - if the worst happened then they are the ideal people to help - it's great watching them nip around in the Surf!!!
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