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Old 06 May 2013, 12:22   #1
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I am having on going issues with my steering,


It originally came with out bleed nipples, unusual first to me, either way bled it well more than once , but I keep getting to a stage where it does not lock out,
Steering works fine and is light , but on full lock I can still turn wheel slightly all be it with some resistance, is this still air in the system?
Run 3 ltrs fluid through it and still same problem,

Is my only solution to fit new t pieces on the ram with bleed nipples, thinking that with my only option of bleeding through the loosening of pipes is drawing air in before I nip them back up,

Last question any one point me in right direction to purchase a couple T pieces with nipples on?


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Old 06 May 2013, 18:18   #2
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What steering is it?


I suspect you're ok with it as it is, but it might be worth trying to push the air back up the pipe a bit by holding the ram so the inlet on the side you think the air is in is the highest point, then pumping all the fluid out of that side of the ram.

It should be easier to get air out if you can get it into the lines rather than the ram.
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I'm not sure it's a problem, isn't there often a little "creep" in a hydraulic setup, are you just finding that bit of movement at the end of the travel? And you say it's working fine over the normal steering range.

If it's a Seastar/Baystar system, I'd suggest checking with them -they're very helpful, there's a customer query form on their website, a guy called Marc has helped me out a couple of times after I've raised queries through that form
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What steering is it?

I suspect you're ok with it as it is, but it might be worth trying to push the air back up the pipe a bit by holding the ram so the inlet on the side you think the air is in is the highest point, then pumping all the fluid out of that side of the ram.

It should be easier to get air out if you can get it into the lines rather than the ram.
http://www.lowcostboatingstore.com/U..._p_465.html%23

Genuine mercury job,, but no bleed nipples
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Any one advise where to get the proper t piece from, ?
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Steering works fine and is light , but on full lock I can still turn wheel slightly all be it with some resistance, is this still air in the system?
SeaStar has an overpressure release: You hit lock and can force the OPV to open by cranking harder (takes a bit of force on my setup.) Nothing gets damaged.

Air in the system is usually evidenced by a very notchy response of the motor to the turning of the wheel. If it's really bad, it will be no response to a turn of the wheel. I have not seen a "creep" or anything like happens with a brake pedal on a car, for instance.



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Run 3 ltrs fluid through it and still same problem,

Is my only solution to fit new t pieces on the ram with bleed nipples, thinking that with my only option of bleeding through the loosening of pipes is drawing air in before I nip them back up,
Bleeding through the hose connections will not get any air out of the ram. The ram itself should have bleed nipples on it; that should be all you need to bleed the system. Any air in the hoses will be forced through the ram to the bleed nipples.

One other note: On SeaStar helms, once you get the ram and hoses bled, rapid, near violent alternate helm operation (quick half-turns in either direction) often brings up air from somewhere in the helm unit. Not mentioned in the SeaStar directions, but someone mentioned it on some other forum, and it seems to be true.


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Any one advise where to get the proper t piece from, ?
Hyphose in poole will do all of the pipes and connection as well as the t pieces
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sorry i did manage to bleed it more, still a very small amount of creep, normal i guess but i am a fussy sod,,
so as i was not 100% happy, went and purchased a new sea star kit,

job for sat,
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