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Old 08 November 2018, 17:25   #31
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Fill the tubes and tyres with helium be fine
I used to tow a hard cruiser years ago it was 3.5t dry empty of gear I just kept a weighbridge ticket in the glovebox showing the weight in the hope mr plod wouldnt bother with the agro of weighing it after seeing the ticket.
If you can keep it on an unbraked trailer then its a bonus, braked trailers are a pain in the backside
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Who gave you the info about 829kg unbraked?

I think you will find the maximum of any car in the UK is 750kg unbraked


Sorry, should have written that better.
Your question was about my cars towing capabilities not a question about towing regulations.
unbraked trailers - max. 750kg gross trailer weight or half the towing vehicle's kerb weight - whichever is less.
So I used the higher (half my cars kurb weight) to show that my car is capable of towing, which was what your question was originally.

Hope that explains it better.
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Does your load include battery?

Sorry PD, your question got lost amongst the too and fro.

Yes that includes the battery which is located up front in the console, fixed in with quick charge leads attached so no need to remove every-time I charge.

Apart from the engine the only thing not weighed today was the steering wheel and a few cables.

Chances are (depending on engine) is that it will exceed 750kgs, which is why I said (more than once) that if it does I will upgrade to a more suitable trailer.

Thought that would have been enough to satisfy the naysayers, especially since I even offered to buy them a pint as a thank you, but you just canít please some people.

Thanks PD .
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[QUOTE=Greatandsecret;786026]Sorry, should have written that better.
Your question was about my cars towing capabilities not a question about towing regulations.
unbraked trailers - max. 750kg gross trailer weight or half the towing vehicle's kerb weight - whichever is less.


Not sure kerb weight is a factor any more ,i nearly bought a 15 plate jeep wrangler weighed in at over 2 ton but unbraked towing max was 500kg
towing weights also take into account the extra towed weights effect on emissions ,to get a wrangler that would tow 750kg you had to buy an axle + model which then jumped from £235 to £400 road tax at the time
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Sorry, should have written that better.

Your question was about my cars towing capabilities not a question about towing regulations.

unbraked trailers - max. 750kg gross trailer weight or half the towing vehicle's kerb weight - whichever is less.





Not sure kerb weight is a factor any more ,i nearly bought a 15 plate jeep wrangler weighed in at over 2 ton but unbraked towing max was 500kg

towing weights also take into account the extra towed weights effect on emissions ,to get a wrangler that would tow 750kg you had to buy an axle + model which then jumped from £235 to £400 road tax at the time


Kurb weight is still a current factor, but like most things it varies and is up to the driver to check the vehicle chassis plate, V5 and there is third but I forget what it is.

driving licence entitlement is an odd one, it is calculated on the potential gross weight not the actual weight.
if your licence entitles you to drive a trailer weighing 750kg gross that doesn’t apply if the gross weight of a trailer is 1500kg BUT the trailer only weighs 500kgs unladen for example. so in that case you can legally tow 750kgs with the loaded trailer but NOT 500kgs with the unladen trailer....��.
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It works, it's legal - what's not to like....
Well if the OP's original question (remember that!) about value was about resale value then it probably is relevant as lazy fekkers like me will prefer to pay more for a boat that doesn't require unpacking and repacking every time. People want to put a boot full of stuff for holidays as well as the boating stuff. (That is probably the opposite at your end of things - where having a method of towing without an HGV is a "selling point").
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Well if the OP's original question (remember that!) about value was about resale value then it probably is relevant as lazy fekkers like me will prefer to pay more for a boat that doesn't require unpacking and repacking every time. People want to put a boot full of stuff for holidays as well as the boating stuff. (That is probably the opposite at your end of things - where having a method of towing without an HGV is a "selling point").


Then if you are buying a boat EXPECTING the seller to have ensured the boat and trailer are well matched then that would be your fault for being a lazy fekker.

I fail to see the point ?
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Then if you are buying a boat EXPECTING the seller to have ensured the boat and trailer are well matched then that would be your fault for being a lazy fekker.

I fail to see the point ?
Quite the opposite. You asked the value. If the buyer realises that to use your rig it will require a heap of faff every-time you narrow the pool of willing buyers.

The market value of your combination is less than the market value of a combination that is more convenient to use.
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Quite the opposite. You asked the value. If the buyer realises that to use your rig it will require a heap of faff every-time you narrow the pool of willing buyers.



The market value of your combination is less than the market value of a combination that is more convenient to use.


If the buyer realises that, then it doesnít devalue the boat (original question) it just reduces the amount of buyers as you rightly mention.

So again whatís your point ?

Iím the seller, I donít mind how narrow my market is and I donít get why it bothers you so much.

If you keep buying stuff without checking out first if itís suits your needs then Iím afraid I canít help that and all I can say is do your homework first.
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