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Old 16 March 2006, 15:38   #1
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Old 16 March 2006, 15:48   #2
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Yep,

The Coast Guard boat is at fault, the power boat is the stand on vessel. However each has a responsibility to avoid each other.
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Now come on - surely you mean IRPCS
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Coastguard at fault............

unless they got some sort of blue light running and then really they should have cut behind the speed boat.

Gross negligence I would say on behalf of the coastguard.

The Coastguard skipper should now be swabbing the deck.

He gets paid extra to make decisions. This time he made the wrong one and should pay the price.

He's really lucky he didn't kill two men. I know they weren't paying attention but the video evidence shows the coastguard to be at fault irrelevant of what the other men were doing.


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I don't think a blue light has any legal aspect at sea does it???
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Old 16 March 2006, 18:07   #8
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Just Watched That (id A Fuking Shat Myself) Lucky They Ent Dead!!!

I Think The Coast Guard Should Have Moved As He Could See This Hazard Developing (but The Bloke In The Speedboat Should Be Aware Of Wat Is Going On Around Him)

Betta In A Rib They Would Of Bounced Of And No Harm Done
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is it real?? No sound on this computer cos I've broke it (whoops) so didnt hear any commentary but it looks staged. CG boat is the give way vessel but the speedboat has an obligation to take such action as is necc to avoid a collision no matter who is the stand on vessel. Also Dave's appendix to irpcs come into play- rules to live longer:
1) no one else knows the rules
2) might is right even when he is wrong
3) the survivors of any collision are invariably on the bigger boat

At least its not a uk boat
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IMHO the skipper/captain of the coastguard vessel is a complete idiot.

Firstly the coastguard vessel should have given way under the IRPCS - but even if under some local byelaw.. etc the coastguard vessel was indeed the stand on vessel, its clear that the captain of the coastguard vessel was aware of the potential collision situation very early on (by virtue of him shouting at the speed boat ) and should have taken action to avoid the collision.
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Old 16 March 2006, 19:09   #11
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there are some idiots around and it looks like this coastguard is the official idiot or a stronger name could be used of course.

would love to know what actions were taken after this event with the usa folks being so letigious......oops red wine ere tooo
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Just seen this - have you noticed how the commentator never once criticised the coastguard skipper?

It is like those American Police stop videos - in one of them they praised the heroic police officer for stopping some joyriders - the policeman shunted them into a petrol station!!! The car caught fire and set the pumps on fire so the brave policeman shunted the burning car to safety!!!! They didn't seem to be able to work it out that he shouldn't have forced the car to crash into the pumps in the first place!!!!
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US Coastguard Skipper is a Merchant Banker !!

All the skipper of the Coastguard vessel had to do was reduce his speed by a couple of knots and/or alter his course to Starboard & the speed boat would have passed across his bow...looks like another case of 'I Work For the Federal US Goverment So Im Always Right!'

Total disregard for safe practice at sea.....you can see where their Military get it from!
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All the skipper of the Coastguard vessel had to do was reduce his speed by a couple of knots and/or alter his course to Starboard & the speed boat would have passed across his bow...
So easy to avoid yet all the Coastguard did was shout at the stand-on vessel. Ease back on the throttle and there's no collision; they are lucky they didn't kill those two guys.

I'm not a fan of gratuitous litigation but in this instance I think the speedboat guys have a good case.
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Hells bells

Now thats a real example in action, i am amazed that they were OK.

As people say the coastguard could see his red light -



Interesting that the other boat skipper said that he did not notice it until the collision - both boats should keep a good look out and i think rule 2 says something like ........ it is the responsibility of the skipper to follow the rules, but in the event of the above should take according action, e.g the coastguard is incorrect, but get out of his way in this instance as he is being stupid.
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Not the Coast Guard, either. The boat involved in the collision is a Coast Guard Auxiliary vessel (sort of a volunteer Coast Guard thing.)

The vessel in the opening and closing shot is *not* the vessel that was in the collision (that appears to be a 41' MLB, In the on-water shot, the rails and transom are different.)

FWIW, this was a few years ago, and the skipper of the CGAux boat was found to be at fault (rules of the road aside, the final word in them states that you must do anything you can to avoid a collision, whether or not you have right-of-way; skipper obviously did not do that.)

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