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Old 03 June 2012, 08:26   #1
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how refurb my hull

hi, can you tell me if gel gone, ie got black grains in it shall i paint or re gel ?
one guy on keyed and flowcoated his hull but wont that flake ?
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hi, can you tell me if gel gone, ie got black grains in it shall i paint or re gel ?
one guy on keyed and flowcoated his hull but wont that flake ?
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I would prep it and spray with decent 2k product


Personally I would only use acrythane but that's my preference but sticks like shi@ to a blanket


Proper route is gel and styrene mix but it's a skill full process to get right and expensive


Prep epoxy primer and acrythane dogs dangles trust me

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Quality can be done if you put the labour in,,,,

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How big is the area you need to do? I've done patches up to about 4 sq in as a novice with gel and it was straightforward.
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I think I asked this once before but what process did you use to get from the bottom image to the top?

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I think I asked this once before but what process did you use to get from the bottom image to the top?

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I 180 grit with air sander applied gel in badly gouged areas, brush it on then put Sellotape over it. Till cured sand to shape again,

Mask off where req heavy coat of epoxy 2k primer 180 sand more primer 320 grit. 800 grit wet n dry with plenty soap in water flat for hrs
I first coat with thick mix orange peel effect, further sand 800 then nail it 5ltr acrythane or polyester top coat

Leave week then mop it to achieve a mint finish


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I 180 grit with air sander applied gel in badly gouged areas, brush it on then put Sellotape over it. Till cured sand to shape again,

Mask off where req heavy coat of epoxy 2k primer 180 sand more primer 320 grit. 800 grit wet n dry with plenty soap in water flat for hrs
I first coat with thick mix orange peel effect, further sand 800 then nail it 5ltr acrythane or polyester top coat

Leave week then mop it to achieve a mint finish


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Well mine looks like the bottom picture at the moment..........not sure it will ever look like the top one

What is the orange peel effect you mention please?
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paint is applied at a thick viscosity (hardly any solvent added as thinning agent)
causing a lumpy textured finish if that makes any sence, helps fill any imperfections
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so what did you do with your 21 ? as i can get guy to spay gel on
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that just 2 pack paint ?
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How big is the area you need to do? I've done patches up to about 4 sq in as a novice with gel and it was straightforward.
what did you do spay it ?
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what did you do spay it ?
Sorry mate no phone again I will ring you am promise,

The 21 had the hull sprayed in 2k paint before I purchased it,,

Honestly paint is fine and a lot less hassle I've done it so many times with mega results it's all in the prep, lucky for me we have a hell of a hi-ab truck at work and turning a craft over is dead easy ,,,, but I did the osprey on the trailer, I covered the trailer in grease just prior to shooting paint better than trying to mask it all off. There after just jet washed it off

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This was a bad application of a gel coat, any dampness water moisture this is what can happen

Console actually peeled away in layers as this not good

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