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Old 06 November 2013, 13:14   #1
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How many seats??

I wonder if the MCA in the UK would allow any coding on this beast (bound for Portugal)
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Old 06 November 2013, 13:17   #2
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12 + crew - that's yer lot in the UK!
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Old 06 November 2013, 13:24   #3
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.....so you yust declare 17 total as crew members on this one, to
legalize it in UK...
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12 + crew - that's yer lot in the UK!
Well, not quite? There are ways beyond 12+crew they are just prohibitively complicated for normal use.
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Well, not quite? There are ways beyond 12+crew they are just prohibitively complicated for normal use.
Not on that yoke, there's not...
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I though Spanish & Portuguese licencing was the same as the UK, 12 + 2??

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.....so you yust declare 17 total as crew members on this one, to
legalize it in UK...
Big liferaft needed!?
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I wouldn't even thank you for a ride in it.

I'm pretty sure I've been on open boats with just a wheel house out to the Farnes with more than 12 people on board and nothing more than a bench to sit on...

Several smaller rafts would seem reasonable.
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Well, not quite? There are ways beyond 12+crew they are just prohibitively complicated for normal use.

Yep,
As a general rule, commercial vessels will automatically be granted the right to carry 12 pax. anything beyond this requires a separate certificate termed a PC (passenger certificate) issued by the MCA.
This requires a completely separate survey to be carried out annually in order for the certificate to be re-issued. It will also stipulate a minimum number of crew required based on howmany passengers are carried and the trading pattern of the vessel. for example if you wanted to carry 20pax on a fishing trip 12 miles out to sea then the MCA could stipulate a minimum of 4 crew but only 3 crew if the vessel stays in Cat C waters. The stipulations of the PC can sometimes be quite complicated. The LSA provisions on board also change dramatically when you start dabbling with PC's to the point that, unless the nature of your business specifically involves the transport of pax's then it's something best avoided....PITA.

Out of all the cargoes a vessel can carry, PAX's. Are the worst!
They have to be kept at at a suitable temperature, kept in a stable condition, entertained, fed, watered (and then subsequently taken care of when they need to be drained), they are fragile and generally time sensitive, and when any of the above conditions are not met.... They moan whinge and complain!

Those on here that make a living transporting Pax's... I tip my hat to you. :-)

personally, would rather transport sheep any day! lol.

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PAX's. Are the worst!
They have to be kept at at a suitable temperature, kept in a stable condition, entertained, fed, watered (and then subsequently taken care of when they need to be drained), they are fragile and generally time sensitive, and when any of the above conditions are not met.... They moan whinge and complain!
I hear you
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