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Old 21 November 2007, 15:12   #11
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I believe the crew all made it back to shore with no serious injuries.

I'm not sure when it was added but the 'newer' RNLI Atlantics (75s and 85s for sure) have a water ballasting system controlled by the helmsman to help keep the bow down in conditions like those in the video.
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Old 21 November 2007, 17:01   #12
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the 'newer' RNLI Atlantics (75s and 85s for sure) have a water ballasting system controlled by the helmsman to help keep the bow down in conditions like those in the video.
Is that an RNLI thing, or is it commercially available ?
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Old 21 November 2007, 17:16   #13
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Is that an RNLI thing, or is it commercially available ?
I'm not sure - I've only ever seen it on the RNLI Atlantic RIBs, but it may be available commercially. Basically there is a lever by the helm's seat, similar to a throttle lever with three positions: pickup, hold, and empty (IIRC). The lever has a cable connection to the pickup point on the transom
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Old 21 November 2007, 17:20   #14
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I believe the system is very common on all sorts of race boats.

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Old 21 November 2007, 17:24   #15
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I did my PB2 at Plas Menai with F8 and wind over tide - there can be plenty of challenging conditions up there, so a good location to do advanced imho.

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I don't think they should have gone out in that
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I got caught out in very rough conditions earlier this year. I lost an engine, due to an air-lock because of the significant pitching of the RIB. Luckily the other engine kept running, but it was very difficult to get the boat back alongside, even with a 200hp ETEC! There was no way I could pump the fuel bulb of the failed engine (I was single crew) and helm the boat through some big breaking waves.

Perhaps I would have been better laying off an angle to the waves, but with the rough conditions keeping her head-to-sea seemed like the safest option, until I could find an opportunity to turn down-sea.

Reviewing my actions that day, I reckon my only real error was going out in the first place. In spite of being on an excellent, fully serviceable RIB and being "blessed" with lots of rough water handling experience, things still went wrong.
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To answer the original question, don't go out in conditions exceeding either your ability or the limits of your equipment. And don't use an excess of one to cover up a shortfall in the other.
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And from my own experience always assume that it is twice as bad at sea as you think it is on land.
Funny how the waves always seem a lot bigger once you leave the harbour than when your in the marina stood next to the boat.
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In the video, the boat is almost vertical in a trough and it is out of site for a moment so that wave must be at least 20ft from trough to crest. Sitting in your seat, look at the ceiling, double the height and add a few more feet.
Feck, that's big steep wave.
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I don't think they should have gone out in that
Well, maybe you're right on that but it did give me some good experience in rough water whilst under the supervision of someone who knew what they were doing.

When I bought my first boat, being inexperienced, I took a friend with me on my first time out who also had PB2. Unfortunately, as we got out of the bay he started to panic a bit - "aaargh", "what's up Matt? They're called waves!" - he'd only ever driven on rivers and lakes but I wasn't bothered by it. As has been said by many others, we just have to know the limitations of ourselves, our boats and their maintenance.
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