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Old 03 September 2006, 14:05   #1
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Help to value a RIB for sale

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I'm looking to buy a rib to use for a diving school. I've seen an ex-RNLI Atlantic 21 built by Halmatic in approx 1990. It is 6.96 metres long and the engines are Mariner 60 Big Foots which were new in 2001 and 2006. The seller says that it's worth £16,000 - do you think it's worth this?

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Old 03 September 2006, 16:36   #2
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I,m no expert the easiest way to value it would be to seperate the items engines, hull,trailer,electronics,Being ex RLNI you should have the history and hours available.It wont help you at all but a neighbour just bought one hull is tired condition engines run very sweet needs some work on deck good twin axle trailer five thousand pound he got a good deal.Tell us more details for anyone to help but does sound top money if you see what else is available for 16,000
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Cannot imagine how it would be worth more than $10k.
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Old 03 September 2006, 17:05   #4
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12k tops,
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I wouldn.t go as far as that. these usually come out of the back of the North sea for around 6 or 7. In the case of an Atlantic hull, whilst incredibly well built, they are not comfortable to drive or be a passenger in.......the seller may disagree. The motors will be working to push that boat and a dive party along so youll be looking at not a lot of speed and big fuel costs!

The Pacifics are a much better bet
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Old 03 September 2006, 20:34   #6
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I think its over priced.

As Roguewave says the Pacifics would probably suit you better. Have a look on www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk you see reconditioned Pacifics in excellent condition for around £13000.
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Just seen this one. Its more money but its reconditioned and upgraded. Looks a fine example.

http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/LYM035/
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Just seen this.

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F109083/

As an alternative Atlantic 21.

Call JBT Marine - they sold an ex Sidmouth Rescue 21 last year I believe - looked to be in good condition, twin 60s I think and not too much money.
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The motors will be working to push that boat and a dive party along so youll be looking at not a lot of speed and big fuel costs!
Agreed 6 divers with twin sets and kit are going to need alot more hp. Either of the Pacific 22s would be a much better choice with kit carried up the front and the large engine box for seating to and from the dive site.
Alternatively if you want petrol this is one of the Weymouth charter ribs used for diving and although more money would be a much better choice. We have dived 9 off one of these. Don't forget as a dive school you will need the boat coded to MCA standards. Do a search on the Commercial forum for lots of info on coding.

http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F43823/

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Thanks for your help. The pacifics certainly look like a good choice. Can anyone recommend how much hp I would need to take 5 divers and kit and actually achieve some speed?
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The dive boat we are building at this time will have 150hp the sea trials will include kitted up divers so we will post some results
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The pacifics certainly look like a good choice. Can anyone recommend how much hp I would need to take 5 divers and kit and actually achieve some speed?
Del Connelly used to operate two P22s out of Weymouth during the mid to late 90s. One with 115 hp John Deere and the other a standard 145 hp Mermaid. Cruising speed was a relaxed 18 - 20 knots with the 2 tonne boat weight making short work of waves and other boats wash but very comfortable for the divers.

Old Spice has 200 hp diesel giving 30 knots lightly loaded or 23/24 knots with 5 divers and all the coding equipment which is quite extensive, takes up lots of space and is heavy. Thankfully a P22 has a huge volume of space under the deck (which you can actually crawl down into) to store all this stuff. Do not underestimate the weight or space you will need for the coding equipment - liferaft, second batteries, life jackets, two anchors etc
Fuel use is lpm at 20 knots rising to 1.5 lpm at 30 knots.

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