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Old 27 January 2008, 02:10   #1
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Help me find a space!

Hi,
In my little boat i am having some trouble to fit all the safety equipment. The life jackets and small bits are ok but when it comes to circular/horseshoe life buoy i run out of options but to sit in the boat with them on my neck!

It is a 4.20 joker boat as you can see in the picture. I was thinking of making an A-frame and installing the buoy underneath but any idea is welcome. As i use my boat for diving, space is the bottle neck as usual.
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Old 27 January 2008, 04:05   #2
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Are you required by some local rules/regs to carry this? In the UK I doubt many people would carry it on such a small boat. Your options for a full size ring/horseshoe are probably - secured to the front of the console, secured to the back of the seat or fit an a-frame and put it there. None of those are going to be discrete or particulalry pleasing on the eye.

Alternatively - do your rules/regs allow (or can they be "bent") a more compact solution:

http://www.oceansafety.com/commercial/MOB-KimThrow.html

or

http://marinestore.co.uk/page/mrst/P...ry/PL40206-WP/

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http://www.solentmarine.co.uk/acatalog/safety.html (scroll down)

or

http://boatingsailing.suite101.com/a...g_rescue_stick


My boat is about the same size as yours. Everyone always wears a lifejacket so I don't see a situation where a lifering is likely to be needed. We do carry a floating throw line in a "throw bag" to help get the MoB back.
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Old 27 January 2008, 04:56   #3
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Rules say it has to be a ring or horseshoe life buoy with solas standarts. Of course you can take the risk of bending the rules and i am sure 70% of the officers will not even say a thing but i just want to dive/fish peacefully with all my equipment ready for a check.

Thanks for the links by the way there are some really nice items in these sites.

I usually carry my ice box behind the bench seat and there is a passenger seat in front of the console. I guess the choices are narrowing down towards the a-frame..
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Old 28 January 2008, 04:19   #4
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In France lots of people register thier ribs in Belgium in order to get away from local legislation. I prefer kitting my boat out as I seem fit to my needs rather than carrying the same equipement as a yacht would!
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Old 28 January 2008, 09:44   #5
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[QUOTE=memo;235585] Hi,
but when it comes to circular/horseshoe life buoy i run out of options but to sit in the boat with them on my neck!
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The silly thing about this rule is that in a RIB you could be back round and pull them out the water in the time it takes to stop, move to the storage location, get it out the bracket and knock them out with it - er I mean throw the horseshoe to them!

Also if someone does fall out at speed you'll probably be beyond throwing distance for one of those things by the time you stop anyway, and if you're already stopped when they fall in the drink, just pull them back in!

As you say, rules for yachts & ferries might not be so appropriate for RIBs - not that this will help you keep it legal. I don't know how big a SOLAS approved ring is, but is there enough room to wedge it between your console and the tube? If not why not buy some of the D- ring patches and some toob goo, then make your own mounting point somewhere on the toobs? That would at least keep it vertical and out the way(ish).
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Old 28 January 2008, 10:38   #6
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Sorry, I didn't see the flag. Is that Turkish?
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Here in the US, we are required to carry a PFD per person. If a boat is over a certain length, also a throwable that is at-hand. Since I'm over the latter measurement (or rather, my boat is), I carry a square seat cushion with handle straps, CG approved as a throwable. Luckily, it fits nicely next to the pilots seat. My PFDs go inside the pilots seat (and, along with towels and jackets and such, make a nice cushion for camera rigs.)

Guys with smaller SIBs run into problems with space for things like PFDs; many end up putting stuff in a duffel bag or similar, and strapping it on top of the tube ends. Looks ugly, but saves interior space for more important stuff, like passengers.

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Old 28 January 2008, 12:36   #8
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Well yes, the flag is turkish and unfortunately the rules are not defined down to ribs.. A solas ring is quite huge actually with a 70cm dia. Also i have to fabricate the A-frame if that will be the way to go.
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run into problems with space for things like PFDs;
or you could wear them where they will be a bit more effective than in a locker
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Here we go. I built a small A-frame to put the mandatory safety stuff.
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