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Old 21 December 2005, 12:15   #41
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Take responsibility for you own actions, and make your own decisions.
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Old 21 December 2005, 13:01   #42
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.....I think it is a major worry.....
Jon it isnít a major issue, it is a possible outcome, but not likely
Think on this, seat belts will stop you going through the window in an accident but might prevent you getting out fast in the event of a fire or going into a flooded river
Would this stop you using them no, because on balance it is safer to use them than not, but in certain instance they are dangerous. Same applies to a helmet.
Having said that Iím still not sure that a helmet is really necessary on a rib unless you are racing or going too fast Des
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Old 21 December 2005, 13:03   #43
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Take responsibility for you own actions, and make your own decisions.
Agree with that!

Would just add in to that guidance

look after each other !

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Old 21 December 2005, 13:08   #44
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Yes lets look after each other. Jackeens like the tree!
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Old 21 December 2005, 13:10   #45
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Take responsibility for you own actions, and make your own decisions.
yep.. Haven't got a helmet, don't want one.. Are those who are advocating a helmet as a safety advice also gonna be wearing body armour like the jet skiers?? Fat lot of good a helmets gonna do you if you break your neck/spine in a spill..
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Old 21 December 2005, 13:16   #46
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Yes lets look after each other. Jackeens like the tree!
Cool Jimbob. Courtesy of Tony (tcwozere) above

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Old 21 December 2005, 13:20   #47
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yep.. Haven't got a helmet, don't want one.. Are those who are advocating a helmet as a safety advice also gonna be wearing body armour like the jet skiers?? Fat lot of good a helmets gonna do you if you break your neck/spine in a spill..
I got a Gecko cos I almost banged my head on the console when playing out in 'interesting' conditions - and realised that if I'd have hit my head I could have been in trouble. But I only wear it sometimes...generally if...

(1) I'm on my own...

(2) It's really bumpy and getting a bit hairy...

(3) or if it's raining - which is when I use it the most!! It's like being indoors...

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would you want to wear a helmet that could have the potential to snap your neck like a twig if you went into the water at speed?

I know I would not and am sure many other feel the same.

We may just have been lucky so far that the right, if that's the best choice of words, crash has not happened to cause death by head injury or bucketing.
I don't want to be the first, not the best thing to have on your tomb stone.


Whilst it wonderful for Stu and I to be in agreement I don't want to kiss him either!

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The bucket effect doesn't happen with a Gecko because it's open face more than anything else. I don't think a Gecko open face is really going to be any safer than any other kind of open face - the bucket effect will not happen - especially if you are wearing goggles without a visor!!!

The problem then comes that if the helmet is ripped off it isn't going to do it's MAIN job which is what happened to that poor kid.

Obviously a full face will give the most protection BUT could suffer from the bucket effect - and yet what do most racers wear? Full face!!!

I think on a closed cockpit boat it has to be full face - on an open boat like a RIB then maybe open face - in which case a motorbike or whitewater type helmet is just as good as anything else - yes there is a risk from hitting the console or whatever but most people tend to be thrown clear.
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Old 21 December 2005, 13:36   #49
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re conforming

I am not advocating the use of helmet as mandatory, and I generally don't wear mine, however if I feel like having a go at the rough stuff then I tend to wear it and it tends to be somewhere on my boat somewhere if I need it. in fact exactly the same as Dylan

What I am advocating is if you want to wear a helmet then wear the right one and not a Cycle helmet!

I was out on the Avon today without a helmet, but the Avon is a big lad and doesn't get to affected by the sea.
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yes there is a risk from hitting the console or whatever but most people tend to be thrown clear.
that's the problem they don't ! particularly on a rib the passengers can have a right hiding in the case of a collision usually from the steelwork
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