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Old 29 May 2007, 11:53   #1
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Helm/Trim/Tilt? Aimed at Evinrude owners!

I've just bought myself a Evinrude 150 and the surface mount throttle has the trim/tilt buttons on the LH side of the grip. This isn't changable (usless someone knows differently).

I wanted my helm position on the Right side of the console, however these buttons aren't in a natural position to use.

So my question is this: If you own an Evinrude with a surface mount and have a helm/steering on the RH side, how easy do you find the throttle/trim/tilt to use?
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Old 29 May 2007, 14:00   #2
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Probably not a good answer, but if I have seen a twin set up with the controls facing both ways..
So a left handed should be available
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Probably not a good answer,
On the contrary, an excellent answer and Andy now knows exactly what to do to solve the problem.


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When I brought the surface mount for my Suzuki it was set up with the button on the wrong side.

Rather than change over the external lever or button, the Suzuki system allows you to swap over the internal mechanism. So you in effect swing the whole unit through 180degrees and swap the gear mechanism and throttle mechanism over. I think most of the surface mount units are the same.

I have a spare unit in the garage that I could strip down to show you how to do it and we could compare yours to see if its possible.

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On the contrary, an excellent answer and Andy now knows exactly what to do to solve the problem.

I'll ask JK to give you a green blob

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I asked the same question at the dealers as the engine came from a twin setup and the controls were there. I thought you could just seperate them, but as the dealer pointed out the dual controls where a complete unit and couldn't be seperated, he also stated that I couldn't get a throttle with the handle around the other way
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When I brought the surface mount for my Suzuki it was set up with the button on the wrong side.

Rather than change over the external lever or button, the Suzuki system allows you to swap over the internal mechanism. So you in effect swing the whole unit through 180degrees and swap the gear mechanism and throttle mechanism over. I think most of the surface mount units are the same.

I have a spare unit in the garage that I could strip down to show you how to do it and we could compare yours to see if its possible.

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Well that's what I thought as well, so took a look at it this afternoon. Yes you can turn the whole lever upside down relative to the chassis, but because of the mechanism having not the neutral poition in the middle, the handle is in the wrong place. So I've been pole axed again
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When I brought the surface mount for my Suzuki it was set up with the button on the wrong side.

Rather than change over the external lever or button, the Suzuki system allows you to swap over the internal mechanism. So you in effect swing the whole unit through 180degrees and swap the gear mechanism and throttle mechanism over. I think most of the surface mount units are the same.

I have a spare unit in the garage that I could strip down to show you how to do it and we could compare yours to see if its possible.

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Didn't know that but mine is the same and I have just got used to it. don't even notice now.
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Will an aftermarket one do the job?
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Will an aftermarket one do the job?
Haa....Funny you should say that, I was doing some research myself and found THIS on the teleflex website. They do a Port Side control too. Looks better that the OEM one as well. Looks like I'll be getting my money back!
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Andy not sitting on our boat so could me wrong .

I think the button is placed and positioned to be used with the right hand thumb . The switch is at an angle and kinda recessed a little for this purpose. the hand rests on the body of the unit.

I have ours on the left , cant use my thumb ( for that purpose anyway )
At that time they didnt do a left hand unit.....

hope that confuses you


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Hi, the swapping round of the mechanisms in my Suzuki one was a major job, not just a quick swap.

It may not be the case with the new ones, but before I had the Suzuki unit I picked up a new-old-stock teleflex lever which I think must have been an older version of the one you mentioned. I fitted it and was dissappointed from the start. It just didn't feel right, and the action wasn't smooth.
It was so bad I carried on looking, and found the genuine Suzuki one which was so much better despite being used when I got it.

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I've visited Auto Marine in Southsea today and had a look at a Starboard mount Throttle from Teleflex. It's really nice and very ergonomically designed for the hand, the other plus point is the fact I can get one with a neutral lock which is very improtant for me. The action was smoother than the Evinrude too.
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I've visited Auto Marine in Southsea today and had a look at a Starboard mount Throttle from Teleflex. It's really nice and very ergonomically designed for the hand, the other plus point is the fact I can get one with a neutral lock which is very inprotant for me. The action was smoother than the Evinrude too.
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Looks like it's back to the drawing board again

Got a phone call this afternoon and the sales guy from Teleflex UK said that these model of throttles are only for starboard fitment only.

Just a thought though, as my outboard is CCR would it not be an advantage to have the helm on the Port side? This might help with any torque that the outboard produces. It's an unnatural position for me to helm, but will probably get used to it.

What do you think? Port or Starboard Helm?
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Handling Issue!

OK, it looks as though I'm going to find it difficult to find a control box that mounts on the Port side that offers me a trim on the right side.

I'm a little worried going for an aftermarket box as I'm concerned about how this might intergrate with the outboard as adaptors are used. So I might, stick with the genuine box and see how I get on. If push comes to shove I could well get one of those steering mounted trim/tilt buttons that I've seen on racing RIBs.

So thanks for all your help.

Now something different, before I start to drill lots of holes in the console.

On a handling issue and using a Counter rotation prop, do I have to bias the weight to the port side to help cancel the torque of the outboard? Or just have it nuetral, ie: helm and driver on the right and twin batts, oil tank on the left.
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I think I be tempted to mount the engine centrally and use the weight of fitments to do the balancing, cos it's the way of ribs that an engine change may to take place in the future and you are more likely to fit a right hander next time.

And, I think you'll get used to the throttle.
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