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Old 28 November 2001, 02:35   #21
Country: UK - Scotland
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Dangers of helmets

I remember during the compulsory motorcycle crash helmet debate - there was considerable argument that a helmet can just transfer injury/death from fractured skulls and brain damage to broken necks! The other dangers were loss of peripheral vision and the feeling of safety generated by wearing a helmet resulted in increased risk taking due to a feeling of invulnerability - I believe this is called the Volvo driver syndrome!

I imagine if a helmet is worn without a visor or only using a partial visor there must be some risk that the open area will act as a brake and result in neck injury or worse?

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Old 28 November 2001, 11:42   #22
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Hi there Rannsachair

Now we are on a subject on which I CAN claim to be an expert (I sat on the government committee that brought in the CBT legislation, on behalf of the motorcycle training industry).

You can forget all of the scare stories about helmets causing head injuries. These were circulated by the anti helmet lobby in the early 1970's and have since proven to be absolute rubbish!

However, motorcycle helmets are designed to protect people riding MOTORCYCLES and the patricular circumstances in which they are liable to find themselves. They were NOT designed for the circumstances encountered in a RIB. Motorcycle helmets cost up to 500.00, but much of the cost of one of these expensive ones is in the finish (ie. a race replica - Carl Foggarty etc.).

Motorcycle helmets are designed to withstand impact and abrasion on a hard surface such as a tarmac road for several hundred yards.

I don't know if anyone actualy manufactures a helmet DESIGNED for RIBS, rather than an adapted motorcycle helmet. I would think that a rib helmet could be much lighter than a motorcycle helmet.

A 'full face' type helmet may be a good idea in a rib as it would protect your mouth and teeth from injury resulting from hitting your face against the instrument panel. The helmet should be light so that the ribsters head is not subject to extra stress and strain due to the constant movement of the boat. This movement may be much more simmilar to the forces a motor-x rider is subject to, rather than those of a normal motorcyclist on the road. The helmets used by motor-x riders are in fact lighter than regular road use helmets. I do have some contacts in this field, perhaps it is worth persuing. Of course it would all depend on the size of the market.

If no one has developed a specific RIB helmet, then it is time that they did.


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Old 28 November 2001, 11:49   #23
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Gecko have developed specific RIB helmet as worn by the RNLI which is lighter etc etc. Its also bloody unfomfortable and makes your head hurt after 5 mins and go numb after 30! I'll stick to my kevlar reinforced wooly hat thanks!


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