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Old 14 January 2006, 14:44   #1
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Hi folks,
I was following the thread "Which twin engined...." and Steve G. made the following comment:
"If you really want a tough rugged boat for ploughing through heavy seas, I would say that you should be looking at Excalibur, Redbay, Ribcraft, Delta, Halmatic and even Boomeranger ahead of Scorpion, Revenger, Pascoe and the like."

Pushing this a bit further, which of these would YOU really be glad to be in in really nasty waters?

Looking forward to comments and experiences.

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Old 14 January 2006, 14:56   #2
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Hi folks,
I was following the thread "Which twin engined...." and Steve G. made the following comment:
"If you really want a tough rugged boat for ploughing through heavy seas, I would say that you should be looking at Excalibur, Redbay, Ribcraft, Delta, Halmatic and even Boomeranger ahead of Scorpion, Revenger, Pascoe and the like."

Pushing this a bit further, which of these would YOU really be glad to be in in really nasty waters?

Looking forward to comments and experiences.

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Old 14 January 2006, 15:02   #3
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That just leaves Cookee to praise the Bananashark, the Irish crowd to recommend Redbay and Rougue Wave to tell you what you really want is a 4.7m Searider
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Old 14 January 2006, 15:05   #4
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Ribworker - aka Ocean Dynamics - tough as old boots!!! Made in Pembroke.

No transom on most of them so any water goes straight out the back. Aluminium hulls and jet drive - prob the ultimate for surf etc.

The designer Shaun Whyte really knows his stuff - ran scary white water trips with them through the bitches a few years ago.

Not ALL their boats are ugly either

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Old 14 January 2006, 17:30   #5
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Redbay.

Pedigree is that of tough boat for tough conditions
Very well made with all manafacturing done in house.
Very well designed
Long history of tough weather handling so all problems ironed out.
Very good resale.
excellent backup support.
strong user group.
Redbay people are tough weather people with a lot of experience in RNLI.

Having seen a lot of queries in the past I feel best advice is take all the opinions on board and then go and meet the different manafacturers and go for a test run. Conditions of Febuary/March should help sort out the real from the pretenders.

Best of luck.
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Old 14 January 2006, 17:38   #6
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Old 14 January 2006, 18:26   #9
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That just leaves Cookee to praise the Bananashark, the Irish crowd to recommend Redbay and Rougue Wave to tell you what you really want is a 4.7m Searider
and after all the nice things I said about you!

For the real rough stuff I'd be telling you it would be an 8.4 sea rider. Also Tim Griffin hasn't mentioned Sowlints yet as I don't really reckon Jets in big 4.+m choppy seas they are fine in a big swell though

Big searider preferably with a big twin outboard setup
Delta, Halmatic pac29. Cabin ribs Delta and Ocean Dynamics and of course the Eurocommuter
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Old 14 January 2006, 20:10   #10
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11m, to hear that my father and 76 year old grandfather went out in a force 6 in one and were horsing up and down the irish coast at 40 knots is not incredible in itself, but also that neither of them moaned there chops that it was bumpy or that there back was sore during or after. Now thats unbelievable.
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Old 14 January 2006, 20:10   #11
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Was just workin of the top of my head TBH!! I definitely left out loads though, you've got the bigger Avons, Ospreys, Tornados, Rayglass (how I forgot this one I don't know, awesome boat!!)

Naiad, Ribworker, Rib Unlimited and Rupert to name some of the rarer ones.

From my experience, I'd be happiest in a twin diesel 11m Redbay, my custom built Excalibur (that I'll be able to afford some day!!), Rayglass 11m, Delta TX or any of the larger Pacs.

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That just leaves Cookee to praise the Bananashark, the Irish crowd to recommend Redbay and Rougue Wave to tell you what you really want is a 4.7m Searider
Spot on there I guess, I love my redbays!!, but you forgot Manos telling us that the Falcon 700RSR would eat all of these for breakfast!!
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Old 14 January 2006, 20:38   #12
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Here in Canada it comes down to TiTAN RHIBS http://www.titanboats.com/searchrescue.html

The Titan 300 has a superb ride.

The other would be a Polaris their 28 ft glass or their 33 ft alum are also excellent. http://www.polarisboats.com/p/alumin...une33_spec.htm
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Old 15 January 2006, 04:48   #13
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It's got to be Redbay, there built like Brick Poo Houses, proven all weather handling, excellent bespoke building, the guys that build them actually use them in all weathers and make improvements based on their experience, back up is second to none and they use the Yamaha inboards.
IMHO the guys at Redbay are very modest, they don't go in for that all out marketing thing, they know what they have in their boats and let the boats do the selling.
Have a look at where most of their boats operate, Atlantic coast of Ireland, Rathlin Sound, South coast of Ireland used by both Government agencies, other commercial operators and hard leisure users who to coin Redbays phrase "for those who must go to sea".
I have another Redbay on order, a 11m Ferry that will be used for crew transfer and passenger duties, with the "odd" run over to Rathlin or up the West Coast for a wee bit of diving .

After Redbay for commercial or hard leisure use I would probably go for either a Delta, again heavy built with proven track record, or a scorpion for leisure use.
About 8 years ago I looked an Ocean Dynamics, but thought that is was a very hard ride, ideal for pure workboat stuff but not a good all rounder, and the no transom thing is not great, having has a boat without a transom and getting wet and cold feet all day every time you stop!!
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Old 15 January 2006, 04:56   #14
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That just leaves Cookee to praise the Bananashark, the Irish crowd to recommend Redbay and Rougue Wave to tell you what you really want is a 4.7m Searider

Of course I would be happy in a BananaShark in really rough waters, Kevin ended up going round the Needles in a force 6 wind over tide, and he had to follow the race course which was the roughest bit!

Having said that I would rather have something with more protection from the elements suchas a big wheelhouse if I had to go out in those conditions a lot - horses for courses I suppose!

........... I wonder how many times that will be quoted in the future?
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Old 15 January 2006, 05:24   #16
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Are the Humbers good boats, they seem quite good value?
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Old 15 January 2006, 12:40   #17
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Old 15 January 2006, 13:14   #18
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Thanks guy

You have provided some food for thought and some new avenues that I didn't know about. In event, all great boats.
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Old 15 January 2006, 13:18   #19
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