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Old 05 October 2004, 08:17   #1
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GRP Engine Box

The majority of the timber engine box on my project P22 is missing so im thinking of replacing it with a GRP box that is hinged and 'completely' waterproof. Not to mention prettier after a seasons use when the paint scratches off and looks pretty shabby!

Does anybody know of a manufacturer who will supply an engine box at a sensible price - it has to be a complete box i.e. four sided as opposed to three sides and rear flanges that bolt directly to the transom. My engine is about a metre forward of the transom!

Gotta be grey too!

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Unless somebody comes up with a ready made option you could try Lee L & N on this forum
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Seb, I might have a phone number for him at home so I will dig it out tonight. We have bene impressed by the quality of his work.

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I doubt you'll find one "off the shelf" so you either need to make one yourself, or get one made. Porters in Emsworth might be worth a try.

JW will probably tell you to just get on and make one, but any decent GRP company should be able to do the job for you, although it's unlikely to be a bargain.

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Adam @ k4+ could make one for you.
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JW will probably tell you to just get on and make one...
eh, you've got me sussed, JK

Yeh just get on and make one. 16mm marine ply, clad it two layers in and out with glass and finish it with flow coat. You could line it and put sound deadening between the layers. Make the top flat so you can stand on it, use it as a table, lounge on it, lay off your charts on it and various other things, which I'll not mention, on it.

Non of this stylish, curvy, shiny, slippery surfaced nonsense.
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Sent you a picture Seb, too big to post. I think it's exactly what you want but not sure who made it, it has been suggested that it may be Halmatic.
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Old 05 October 2004, 12:15   #8
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Thanks for the suggestions.

Think ill try and get some quotes from the companies suggested but i guessed an off the shelf model would be cheaper than a custom and funds are not endless!! Still need an actual engine to put in the actual box!!

Have though about making a box myself - what type of finish will you get with flowcoat? Dont want to go to the bother if its going to look like a shite DIY job!!

Or, alternitavely, is there another type of finish that can be put on i.e. a deliberately non smooth gel coat finish likw some of the avons have on their decks etc.

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Old 05 October 2004, 22:35   #10
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Thanks for the suggestions.

Still need an actual engine to put in the actual box!!


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theres a guy who I think you know in Saundesfoot called Steve I think he may have an engine. Failing tha ring my Mum and ask her for Michael Passticcohs number he will be able to find you one in Cardiff
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Old 06 October 2004, 08:21   #11
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If I was making an engine cover from scratch I would design it so that it could double as a dingy , it’s big enough(just) and would be very useful.
You would have to devise a way to close the engine vents but that’s not too difficult.
You could also get a canvas cover made up for the engine when the ‘engine cover dingy’ was off the boat.
This is such a good idea I’m now going to get a patent and make millions. Forget you’ve read this or the patent won’t be valid
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If I was making an engine cover from scratch I would design it so that it could double as a dingy , it’s big enough(just) and would be very useful.
You would have to devise a way to close the engine vents but that’s not too difficult.
You could also get a canvas cover made up for the engine when the ‘engine cover dingy’ was off the boat.
This is such a good idea I’m now going to get a patent and make millions. Forget you’vie read this or the patent won’t be valid
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Old 06 October 2004, 09:03   #13
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I dunno it seems do-able
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I reckon you should go for it, Des. Sounds like the ideal solution. And with the combined wisdom of the forum shouldn't be too difficult to get right!
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Sounds a bit adventurous des - think ill leave it to you!!

Flow coat finish looks pretty acceptable and would probably fit in quite well with the general finish of the boat - i.e. rugged! How do you obtain the stippled effect - brush or a special tool/method?

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I would design it so that it could double as a dingy

It's already been done. I think they call them Falcons or something like that.

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How do you obtain the stippled effect - brush or a special tool/method?

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Gel+resin about 50/50 + wax so it dries smooth and tack free. Use a foam roller, the type used for texturing walls, B&Q. Slaver the resin onto about a third of the area of the panel. Just lollop it/pour it on, the roller distributes it evenly. Don't apply too much resin, you can always add more if it is too dry. Initially, it feels as though it's not working well but it takes time for the roller to fill up. Once that happens it's easy to make the texture, just roll lightly and smoothly.
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Old 06 October 2004, 19:38   #18
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Thanks for that - will get to work and will hopefully post some pictures when its all done (some distant day!!)
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http://www.cyb-glassfibre.co.uk/pricelist.htm these guys sell flowcoat and have an FAQ on the website
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