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Old 16 July 2012, 06:04   #1
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Great safety knife - Buck Flashpoint

Well I have loads of knives but wanted a knife to colour coordinate with my RIB and in the search found this great knife, not only does it have a very useful blade that locks it can also be opened and closed one handed, it has a useful type inbuilt hook which also acts s a bottle opener. The only thing that Pee's me off is that we get ripped off in the UK, check the prices in the US.

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US Price NEW Buck Orange FlashPoint Knife with Carabiner Clip 770ORX | eBay

P.S. it is £12 ish postage from the US for all 6 if anyone wanted to order a load for others, beware shipping doubles when you go to 7
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Well I have loads of knives but wanted a knife to colour coordinate with my RIB
Are you going to fake tan yourself Dale Winton orange so you match your boat?
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On the thread of colour keying HERE's an opportunity for you. It'll help keep the microwave volted-up

I assume your mobile phone provider is Orange?
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Old 16 July 2012, 06:22   #5
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This may fall into the lock knife/gravity knife category, nice knife though!

''Illegal Knives''
In the UK, the main knife legislation is found in the Criminal Justice Act (CJA) 1988 however certain types of knife are banned under the Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act (ROWA) 1959, the relevant section of the latter being Section 1.

A) any knife which has a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife, sometimes know as a "flick knife" or "flick gun"; or
B) any knife which has a blade which is released from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force and which, when released, is locked in place by means of a button, spring, lever, or other device, sometimes known as a "gravity knife". "
[ROWA 1959 S 1(1)]

Section 1(2) also makes it illegal to import knives of this type, as a result it is (almost) impossible to obtain possession of such a knife without either committing or abetting an offence.


Burden of Proof
Although English law insists that it is the responsibility of the prosecution to provide evidence proving a crime has been committed an individual must provide evidence to prove that they had a bona fide reason for carrying a knife (if this is the case). Whilst this may appear to be a reversal of the usual burden of proof, technically the prosecution has already proven the case (prima facie) by establishing that a knife was being carried in a public place.
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This may fall into the lock knife category, nice knife though!

''Illegal Knives''
In the UK, the main knife legislation is found in the Criminal Justice Act (CJA) 1988 however certain types of knife are banned under the Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act (ROWA) 1959, the relevant section of the latter being Section 1.

A) any knife which has a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife, sometimes know as a "flick knife" or "flick gun"; or
B) any knife which has a blade which is released from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force and which, when released, is locked in place by means of a button, spring, lever, or other device, sometimes known as a "gravity knife". "
[ROWA 1959 S 1(1)]

Section 1(2) also makes it illegal to import knives of this type, as a result it is (almost) impossible to obtain possession of such a knife without either committing or abetting an offence.


Burden of Proof
Although English law insists that it is the responsibility of the prosecution to provide evidence proving a crime has been committed an individual must provide evidence to prove that they had a bona fide reason for carrying a knife (if this is the case). Whilst this may appear to be a reversal of the usual burden of proof, technically the prosecution has already proven the case (prima facie) by establishing that a knife was being carried in a public place.
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I'm fully aware of the knife laws, but as a ribber this is an essential tool against ffing lobster pots and Solent pirates so no problems at all there

I think my flares (illuminating not trousers) would do a great deal of mass damage compared to that 20" knife (well my wife thinks its 20" comparing it to other 6" objects )

This knife does NOT fall in the above shown legislation anyway, they are freely available in the UK and I bought mine in Snow & Rock, that legendary shop dealing with illegal weapons

Got to go, I'm in the tanning rooms at 1pm
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Old 16 July 2012, 08:18   #8
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Oh dear, look what else I found, couldn't resist, should be with me tomorrow, I am going to be well tooled up

Leatherman LT85/OR/CP Skeletool Clam No Sheath - Orange: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools
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Have you swapped phone contracts to "Orange" yet ?
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Here's another for you to consider. Good knife, but unfortunately doesn't withstand salt environments without a lot of TLC (involving lots of silicone grease):

CRKT Bear Claw Knife at NRSweb.com


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My concern with the o.p.s knife would the sharp pointy bit being used around tubes. I'm a bit on the clumsy side so tend to only use knives with a rounded end just in case.
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These guys make great knives. These two have "highly water resistant" blades... And they come in orange!

http://www.benchmade.com/products/551H2O

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I use one of these:-



it's a Smith and Wesson Cuttin Horse.

It seems to withstand salt quite well and the curved blade stops it being too easy to accidentally stab the tubes.


One day i'll buy a Gerber and lose it, but for now, if I drop this overboard it's not expensive
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it's a Smith and Wesson Cuttin Horse.

It seems to withstand salt quite well and the curved blade stops it being too easy to accidentally stab the tubes.


One day i'll buy a Gerber and lose it, but for now, if I drop this overboard it's not expensive

exactly what i did bought a gerber safety knife and lost the fkkn thing before i got it home
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These guys make great knives. These two have "highly water resistant" blades... And they come in orange!

551H2O Griptilian Product Detail

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Nice knives, interesting that the dual blade of the second link are all now back order must be popular to have that. Unfortunately our laws prohibit a pocket knife from being longer than 3 inches, so both of those are out, if I was going larger and couldn't keep it 'legally in my pocket' I would get another divers knife. I have always enjoyed looking at knives in the US, there seems to be so much variety there, I bought a lovely Titanium divers knife which I still have, half the price than in the UK. My wife is in New York at the moment but only ever travels with hand baggage so that rules out any knife presents for me
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For the rib this is all I need will cut through any nylon rope with ease

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Also carry one of these http://www.google.co.uk/products/cat...ed=0CGUQ8gIwAA


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Unfortunately our laws prohibit a pocket knife from being longer than 3 inches=
So, if you just don't put it in your pocket, you're ok? That's sort of like here in certain places here in the US: If you wear your handgun on your belt or sling your rifle over your shoulder, it's not a "concealed weapon" (and in certain places, there are no laws against that).

You could also customize a "mini-griptilian" with an orange handle, an N680 alloy blade (2.91 inches long), and the "tanto" blade.
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No, more just general carrying around blade must be less than 3", if you have good reason to carry one bigger then it must be for a reason, so if you get out your car to go wandering around a mall it should be left securely locked in your car, out on your RIB or diving would be fine, that kind of thing. I have quite a few knives but was running out of stuff to buy for the new RIB so saw the knife and bought it, oh, then another kind and bought that, both orange I have just seen a Gecko helmet in orange, I have a white one, but what the hell I think I will get an orange one for weekends to go with my fake tan
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No, more just general carrying around blade must be less than 3", if you have good reason to carry one bigger then it must be for a reason, so if you get out your car to go wandering around a mall it should be left securely locked in your car, out on your RIB or diving would be fine, that kind of thing. I have quite a few knives but was running out of stuff to buy for the new RIB so saw the knife and bought it, oh, then another kind and bought that, both orange I have just seen a Gecko helmet in orange, I have a white one, but what the hell I think I will get an orange one for weekends to go with my fake tan
I think you will find having a knife with a locking blade more than 3" in length in your car is also an offence, unless you have a good reason for having it. Your car is considered a public place for that purpose.
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IIRC all lock knifes and fixed knifes in uk regardless of size is illegal to carry in Uk in public place...
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