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Old 17 January 2007, 16:33   #21
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a contradictory gross generalisation if ever there was one

Of course all RIBs have the engines at the front - or do you drive backwards???
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Old 17 January 2007, 16:53   #22
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Of course all RIBs have the engines at the front - or do you drive backwards???
mmm.... not normally - but in that case most boats are the same

All ribs are NOT the same. Different lengths (I suspect this may be a bigger problem with long boats like yours than short ones like mine). Heavy ones, and light ones. Different hull designs. Very different loadings/layouts. Different weights of engines. Different numbers of engines. Different location of fuel tanks. Some have bow tanks, some don't. Some have transom jacks which move the engine further back. Some have most of the passenger seating up front. Some have it all behind the console. Some have the weight of a cabin. Some have tapered tubes (do they tend to catch the wind less?). Many (but not all) have PTT to assist with trim.

Although not a true rib mine is never bow light if anything because of a small (low weight) engine, console further forward than suggested by the manufacturer, and anchor etc up front it is actually a little too much bow down (and therefore quite "wet").

The irony is you recognised that all ribs were not the same when you wrote "mine is better than most" and yet you still made the statement.
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Old 17 January 2007, 17:26   #23
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I think you will find that ALL RIBs tend to be light at the nose when compared to something like Alex drives. Yes some are better than others but within reason - doesn't see much contradictory about that - but then again you would have to find fault somewhere I suppose.
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I think you will find that ALL RIBs tend to be light at the nose when compared to something like Alex drives. Yes some are better than others but within reason - doesn't see much contradictory about that - but then again you would have to find fault somewhere I suppose.
As far as I know alex has never got his tug on the plane. I'm not sure how you could even define the comparison between a tug and speedboat (rib or otherwise) though? I would suggest that any planing craft may tend to be a little lighter in the nose than even a similar sized displacement craft. The issue is really only if it has a tendency to flip as a result of it (or at least to go very steep - which may be rather uncomforable). I would argue that as you implied yourself some ribs are better than others.

It comes across that you were saying all ribs are the same - except yours of course which is better
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It comes across that you were saying all ribs are the same
Oh no

Definitely going to buy a Mac if they are all the same, Polymarine must be millionaires
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Old 18 January 2007, 06:30   #26
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Tell me about it - whatever business we do in this country we are strangled by red tape. The EU brings in new laws and if the other states don't like them they just ignore them - what do we do? Throw a load of jobsworths at it to strangle us even more!!!


I remember a few years ago our glorious leader saying it was unfair on British business that other EU countries were ignoring the rules and that Britain would do the same. A few weeks later they announced they were launching a satellite
to spy on British farmers to make sure they didn't exceed their crop quotas!!!


Sorry Codprawn but you have totally the wrong end of the stick - I wasn't commentating on the legislation or the legislators, but rather people like the manufacturer of your RIB who have no regard for the customer, the law or anything else other than making a quick buck. The customer that buys products knowing all the CE documention is fake is no better in my incredibly humble opinion either - I'm sure you were totally unaware of that though Codders!
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Old 18 January 2007, 07:41   #27
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Sorry Codprawn but you have totally the wrong end of the stick - I wasn't commentating on the legislation or the legislators, but rather people like the manufacturer of your RIB who have no regard for the customer, the law or anything else other than making a quick buck. The customer that buys products knowing all the CE documention is fake is no better in my incredibly humble opinion either - I'm sure you were totally unaware of that though Codders!
Well as my boat is rated as a C - the same as my 3.1m Quicksilver - I don't really see what the problem is. I know which I would rather be on in a Force 8 - if anything he has erred on the side of caution too much the other way.

And yes I am STILL totally unaware - if he had stuck an A on the boat I may have been a bit suspicious but a C???

I am very sorry but nobody will EVER be able to persuade me that EU legislation is a good idea - do you realise we now have the same spec tarmac as Italy - Spain and Greece because of EU laws. Because it is not as suited to our climate we have to use concrete on the approaches to roundabouts etc to make up for the lack of grip - of course if you have to do an emergency stop where there isn't any concrete in the wet you are buggered!!!

Maybe you SHOULD think about the legislators a bit more - the rest of the people in Europe just ignore EU laws they don't agree with - who are the mugs eh???

And yes I DO know exactly where you are coming from trying to do the "right" thing up against competitors who don't give a toss. We are often priced out of jobs by people who bought their computer qualifications in India or paid someone to sit the exam for them!!!
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Old 18 January 2007, 07:53   #28
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We are often priced out of jobs by people who bought their computer qualifications in India or paid someone to sit the exam for them!!!

There you go Codders - that's a good idea!!!!!
In view of the recent "big brother" uproar in the Uk- that's really a bit pointed. But the subject in question-- she's really looks a smashing piece if stuff.. Anyway back to boating- how is the tub going?? any regrets? ( like get a cabin for example)

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Great hulls yea or nay?

Cod, am I wrong to simply state that you probably meant all ribs are the same in that they tend to be lighter at the bow than stern simply due to the greater mass aft, propulsion, steering equipment etc.etc? Or do you mean all ribs tend to perform/handle as though they are "light in the nose"?
If it is the former, I agree, if not we MAY disagree.

I await your proclamation Oh prodigious poster of pertinent points!
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Cod, am I wrong to simply state that you probably meant all ribs are the same in that they tend to be lighter at the bow than stern simply due to the greater mass aft, propulsion, steering equipment etc.etc? Or do you mean all ribs tend to perform/handle as though they are "light in the nose"?
If it is the former, I agree, if not we MAY disagree.

I await your proclamation Oh prodigious poster of pertinent points!

Yup got it in one - some people just like to argue for the sake of it though.....
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